Is Mise,

So you see no problem with someone like Fraser Anning becoming a Senator with only 17 votes, replacing a former member who had only 55 votes?

It's not at all "what people want" it's the result of gerrymandering, the distorting preferential voting system and where the votes are cast.

This thread is supposed to be about the Greens unconcern for the economic wellbeing of sections of the Victorians people but as usual those who are anti-firearm ownership shew their fixation with firearms which seems to illustrate Freud's speculation that those who fear weapons suffer from sexual inadequacy and/or fear of the act.

Hunting is not confined to the use off firearms and I know a couple of Indigenous blokes in Vic who hunt with traditional weapons.

Paul,

You have on numerous occasions and in this thread alluded to the NRA of the US having funded Australian shooting organisations, so tell us when, where and how much.

Steele,

Give up your attempts to be the OLO psychiatrist, it's rather childish.

Steele,

Just tried the link and it worked fine.

It worked for Paul also, although he says that he didn't read it, as Paul keeps an open mind it would have gone straight through anyway.

rache,

How many votes did they get overall?

Not just primary votes, in a three way contest if A gets 42 of the primary vote and B gets 36 and C gets 22 then C's votes are distributed, A gets 2 preferred votes and B gets 20,

So B is elected with 56 votes and is thus the candidate preferred by most of the electors, can't get fairer than that.

If there are faults in the system then fix the faults, but primary votes, as such, mean nothing.

Hi there Issy,

The political wing of the SSAA in Australia received donations from Thales Australia Limited, defence contractor and small arms manufacture whose parent company Thales US Inc, a global multinational. Thales US Inc has close links in the United States with the National Rifle Association.

I must admit it is hard to prove "funny gun money from overseas". The gun lobbies main political arm The Shooters, Fishers and Farmers party, which at the 2015 NSW state election disclosed three suspect donations, one of $17,000 from the Shooting Industry Foundation of Australia, $5,000 from the New South Wales firearms dealer Magnum Sports Pty Ltd and $30,000 from its own association entity the Federation of Hunting Clubs.

The suspicion, but hard to prove, is foreign arms dealers and foreign quasi political organisations like the NRA channel money to pro gun political parties and politicians like Katter and Leyonhjelm in Australia through sham fronts like the above mentioned.

What I would like to see is whenever a politician gets to his feet to speak in the Parliament he first declares who he is speaking for. In the case of your Shooters and Hooters mob they could say something like "I stand here before to speak on behalf of the purveyors of death and destruction throughout the world." It would be a nice touch, then we would know who they represent.

//who are anti-firearm ownership shew their fixation with firearms which seems to illustrate Freud's speculation that those who fear weapons suffer from sexual inadequacy and/or fear of the act.//

Bollocks, Freud never said anything about people fearing weapons.

http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Sigmund_Freud#Misattributed

He did think that they were phallic symbols.

“All complicated machines and appliances are very probably the genitals — as a rule the male genitals — in the description of which the symbolism of dreams is as indefatigable as human wit. It is quite unmistakable that all weapons and tools are used as symbols for the male organ: e.g., ploughshare, hammer, gun, revolver, dagger, sword, etc.”
- Sigmund Freud, Introductory Lectures on Psychoanalysis.

But really, who takes anything that lunatic said seriously? He was no scientist, just a weird old pervert. Why am I not suprised that Is Mise is a fan of that particular form of humbug?

//Hunting is not confined to the use off firearms and I know a couple of Indigenous blokes in Vic who hunt with traditional weapons.//

Jesus, if guns are symbolic of penises, what do you think a big, long, hard spear counts as? I mean come on, it literally has a shaft and a head. The only way you're going to get a more phallic weapon than that is if you starting beating the poor ducks to death with actual dildos.

//Give up your attempts to be the OLO psychiatrist, it's rather childish.//

Seriously? After you just invoked Freud, of all people?

Although to be fair, I should point out that technically you're not trying to be psychiatrist, because you're trying to be a psycho-analyst as well as therapist, thus making you an:

http://arresteddevelopment.wikia.com/wiki/Analrapist