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Who Will Rid Us Of This Turbulent Corporation? (Apologies to Henry 11)

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Here's what I think.
If all the Five-eyes intelligence agencies work together; and the US runs 'Operation Mockingbird' operations with agents embedded into many media organisations, pushing their agendas and talking points there in the US and abroad, to 'steer' the peoples thoughts and views on a matter; if that happens, and we know it happens - they why would one assume the same isn't happening here?

That said, here's my theory:
The ABC isn't going to change.
It's the way it is because people have a vested interest in it being that way.
And it will stay in government hands (and it should, otherwise they should call it something else) and we'll keep on paying for it;
- Your Paying for the right to be fed fake news; misleading half-truths, bias, deliberately obscured or omitted facts meant to deceive, narrative, conjecture, slanted opinion and mockery, dressed as stated facts.
Why?
Because it was designed that way.
-That's how it works, that's its purpose.
What other reason would a government own a national broadcaster for?
For our benefit? You must be kidding me.
It exists for their benefit not ours.

They'll say whatever, but nothing will change and they won't sell it.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Thursday, 28 June 2018 9:27:26 PM
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What the hard right want is a politically controlled national broadcaster that is in lockstep with their like minded private media. The totally biased trash we now receive from the right wing broadcasters, notably those of the Murdoch persuasion, would become the order of the day for the ABC as well, as Chairman Rupert issues his edicts.
A hero of the hard right, Joseph Goebbels, understood the absolute necessity of media control, and subsequent bias for propaganda purposes. If one is going to propagate a healthy totalitarian state, one needs a decent Propaganda Minister running all news and opinion, there is no room for alternates, and certainly there is no room for dissent.

Me thinks we have a few Goebbelites on this forum.
Posted by Paul1405, Friday, 29 June 2018 5:30:03 AM
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AC,

The ABC is changing: it is getting more arrogant and controlling because governments, irrespective of brand (they are almost one and the same, now) do not want it to change. They still have enough of other people’s money to enable the ABC, which they are always hoping will say something nice about them. Remember, there has been a catastrophic shift to the Left in Australia, and Turnbull is jockeying to get the ABC on his side at least some of the time. We now have to regard the ABC as government run media as it was in the USSR and still is in China and other totalitarian countries.

Paul,

As you consider anyone not a Green as “hard right”, I am included in that group (in your eyes), and I can tell you all I want is a neutral media that reports the facts, and gives equal time and access to all - even the extremist Greens, who are their own worst enemy with a ridiculous leader who is killing them off on his own; the more coverage he is given, the better.

There is no Right media in Australia. There are a few Right radio personalities, but they are hardly ‘media’.

Like all ideologues, you think that anyone who doesn’t want to be bullied by you and your kind simply want to bully back. You are totally wrong. We just want equal footing. It is not about winning anything; it is about cooperation for the common good. However, I can see that anyone who thinks that National SOCIALISTS were hard right would have little hope of understanding that.
Posted by ttbn, Friday, 29 June 2018 10:00:34 AM
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The more dishonest and misleading the abc has become the more need for a hard right. Anyone see Peter Abetz last night suggesting some women simply take out avo's in order to help their custody battles. Nearly sent to feminist into meltdown as if it never happens. The anti male, anti family anti decency tax payer, pro homosxeuality propaganda station is really sickening
Posted by runner, Friday, 29 June 2018 10:30:01 AM
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The coalition does not want to privatise the ABC - they want to dismantle it.

The three private (so called "free-to-air") networks are already struggling with advertising revenue so the last thing they want is for a fourth player to enter the market.

It's funny how people complain about programmes like Q&A showing bias (from both directions) but there's no equivalent on the other networks for comparison and never will be. Where else can groups like the IPA access taxpayer funds to put their views to air?

There are however, plenty of right-wing extremist shows available on Sky and the last time I looked, Amanda Vanstone still has her radio show on ABC radio. The ABC did try another deliberately right-wing radio programme some time ago but it was canned due to a lack of listener interest.
Posted by rache, Friday, 29 June 2018 10:49:43 AM
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tbbn,
Your remark suggesting that Nazis (National SOCIALISTS) were not "hard right" displays your own ignorance and bias.

The first things the Nazis did was to ban Trade Unions, communists and impose strict media censorship - hardly leftist ideals but closer to neo-conservative politics today.
Likewise, they were white supremacists and their only link to socialism was their wish to nationalise Jewish capitalism and their industries.
Their closest war-time allies were the Italian fascists, who coined both the name and the idea of Corporatism - another modern trend in resurgence in the Reich Wing.

Hitler called media bias "Lugenpresse" (Lying Press) in the same way Trump calls all critics "fake news" but passionately sucks up to Fox News because they only promote him and never criticise.

The same historical pre-war trends of scapegoating, censorship, oppression and displacement are happening again under similar right wing leadership.

As for there being no right Media in Australia, what do you think News Corp publications are, as well as the three private TV networks and most radio stations? Those right-wing media personalities are employed to say precisely what the station owners want them to because angry reactionary veggies are easier to sell stuff to.
Posted by rache, Friday, 29 June 2018 1:39:18 PM
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