AC, good to see another person who knows right from wrong and knows the meaning of reason and common sense.
And is courageous enough to stand up in the face of childish and PC attitudes to help take back 'our' ground, against all the immaturity and resistance being promoted out there these days, by the 'dark side'.
There are way too many neuters out there who have forgotten how to be men and have gone to the 'dark side'.
I for one do not want to see this disease spread any further.

Foxy,

I think most of us are not half-wits, we know the difference between free and fair speech and comment and opinion, and hate speech or vilifying statements or statement meant to incite hate and violence.

Please have enough respect for the rest of us to try to build that understanding into your comments.

Joe

Forwardplease, believes political correctness serves, black men, Muslim men, gay men and women because they have been bullied by white heterosexual men, and have completely neglected the needs of the rest of us. She prefers to identify and promote racism of black pigment, Islamophobia of their primitive and anti-social religion, homophobia as a normal relationship, and extreme feminism. She fails to recognise wise intelligence rises to the surface, even among her identified group, but so does uncivilized cult behaviour becomes recognised. Among my heroes who influenced the World are Nelson Mandela, Martin Luther King and Ghandi who were dominant leading men hardly classed as white.
What does she identify as needs that have been neglected by white heterosexual males? Several here are white heterosexual males so tell us where we have not supplied to those needs. Compare what happened in Zimbabwe and what they faced under Black rule, they are now calling for those white farmers to return to feed the nation. WHY?

Dear Joe (Loudmouth),

I have explained my take in this discussion quite
clearly and respectfully. And I have
tried to respond to the comments being made, equally
respectfully. That's part and parcel of my make-up.

Freedom of speech is one of the corner stones of our
society, and it is a principle worth defending.
Unfortunately complete butt-heads and bullies, and toxic
people are also a corner stone of our society and
will definitely be here until we no longer are. And when
the latter get a hold of the former they invoke it
improperly and indiscriminately, like a monkey with a
shot-gun. The internet for some is especially a safe
haven (they love the anonymity - sitting behind their
computer screens - bless 'em) to say whatever toxic
thing they want, to spread misinformation and hate speech.
You and many others would of course not dream of doing
that because you know the difference between what you
should or should not say. Yet others think that they are
allowed to threaten and harass people and intentionally
inflict harm on someone using words.

You know that free speech does not mean you have the
freedom to say what you want without any consequences.
Nobody has to support someone else's shyte.

For example Reddit announced plans to crack down on its
"most toxic" users. the reaction was predictable -
"Censorship" "What about our freedom?"

You're free to ride a horse, but you're not free to ride
a horse into a Department Store, especially a horse you
don't even own. Therefore constantly crying "free speech"
is beating that horse to death.

Foxy,

What, are you saying now that horses don't have freedom of speech ? Outrageous ! Hate speech !

Joe

Josephus, I don't need to show you any adoration or that I agree with you or your stance because I know that your one of the good ones.
As much as some on this forum exhibit a reluctance to see the other side of a debate, or outright reject it because that is the way they are wired.
Not because they have given it careful and serious thought.
And so it is that we will never convince these people.
Carrying on, on topic.
I don't know if anyone saw the tripe that was on TV yesterday where this wo-we (she wanted all reference to the words which had man in it removed from the English language, because blah, blah, blah.....). Examples were given of many such words, and it was explained to her that it stems from 'human', not 'man'.
She carried on dismissively.
Now this (put in your own word to describe this persons gender) was so floury I thought what a friggin bimbo.
She went on and on about some (thing) she was sitting next to at some meeting or other, and here was this guy, with a beard, wearing a dress.
She was going on about how to address 'him' (I'm not going off the dial like her and her lot have, the guys a guy. A sick one yes, but still a guy).
Honestly I thought I was looking at a flakey little 5 year old.
Now that is about the age of these people who carry on like flakes.
I will end all this nonsense once and for all, here and now.
If any of you claim to have a modecome of intelligence and common sense take this on board and stop being a pest.
Any word which has the part of it with 'man' or 'men', means they are nouns.
Therefor they have no reference to ANY gender other than 'man' or 'woman'.
These are NOUNS!
Now do you finally get it.
Once again, HUMAN.
The nasty people of the world, have an evil and destabilising agenda. We must not let them win.