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Should we be worried, if so, what can we do

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diver dan Quote "Focus also on the Chinese takeover by stealth. Only a fool would believe the nonsense proposed by politicians on the electoral trail, that Muslims pose a national threat in any way to this country, greater than that!"

Tell that to the people that have moved out of suburbs because of the influx of Muslims.

Ask the residents of thousands of NO-GO zones in countries like France, Germany and Sweden if Muslims don't pose a national threat.

Can you name one area that Chinese congregate and live in that is a NO-GO zone?
Posted by Philip S, Tuesday, 29 May 2018 8:03:42 PM
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To me the problem is the growing social inequality due to the continuing transfer of wealth from the poor to the already wealthy and the deliberate dismantling of job security.

It's the inevitable economic and philosophical result of neo-conservatism.

It's also one thing to blame the unions but another to moan about the resulting lack of wage growth that's resulting from their decline.

Likewise, you can complain about the rising cost of housing but fail to see it's to the economic benefit of governments who need that revenue to buy your votes. They are the ones helping keep prices high.

They also rely on a constant unemployment rate of around 5% to keep wage growth under control but continue to blame the victims.

While society gets led by the nose by various influential self-interest groups into dividing itself into warring factions it fails to see those same groups filling their pockets.

History has shown that scapegoating is a tool that's always handy for such things.

Also, the so-called "no-go zones" in France, Germany and Sweden are a myth used to perpetuate racial tensions.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No-go_area
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/sharia-law-muslim-no-go-zones/
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/sweden-crime-no-go-zone-police/
Posted by rache, Wednesday, 30 May 2018 12:17:39 AM
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rache - Quote "Also, the so-called "no-go zones" in France, Germany and Sweden are a myth used to perpetuate racial tensions.

From Wikipedia A "no-go area" (or "no-go zone")
"also to areas that have a reputation for violence and crime which makes people frightened to go there."

France: Macron Buries Plan to Rehabilitate 'No-Go Zones'

The township of Seine-Saint-Denis is Aubervilliers. Sometimes referred to as one of the "lost territories of the French Republic," it's population is more than 70% Muslim. Three quarters of young people under 18 in the township are foreign or French of foreign origin, mainly from the Maghreb or sub-Saharan Africa. French police are said to rarely venture into some of the most dangerous parts of the township.

A day before Macron's speech, French television channels broadcast images of masked gunmen opening fire in broad daylight in the southern port city of Marseille. The assailants, dressed in black and carrying Kalashnikov assault rifles, kidnapped one individual, placed him in a car and drove away while police helplessly stood by. The gangsters, who are thought to be involved in a turf war for control of the drug trade in the city, "fear neither the police nor justice," according to an officer, who said that the police "had no chance" because they were outgunned and outmaneuvered.

By any chance is your computer web browser stuck on MSM news outlets only?

There are so many articles about no go areas in countries a quick internet search will bring up literally thousands.
Posted by Philip S, Wednesday, 30 May 2018 1:27:18 AM
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rache as for your snopes.com lets have a look at them.

The problem is in the very limited wording of the claims.
Claim 1 "A number of localities in the United States, France, and Britain are considered Muslim "no-go zones" (operating under Sharia Law) where local laws are not applicable. "
A Government would have to be stupid to admit they have surrendered legal control of an area that is still technically under there control.
But in 2018 it is fact your claim was from 30 March 2015

Claim 2 "There are "no-go zones" in Sweden where the police can't enter. "
Of course there are no such areas BUT there are areas that police can only safely go in large numbers.
Posted by Philip S, Wednesday, 30 May 2018 2:01:23 AM
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Like it or not, many of our problems with regards to wage growth are the fault of the consumer.
Consumers buy online, knowing they are forcing profits of bricks and mortar retailers down and, given wages come from gross profits, it stands to reason that the dollars are just not there to fund any increase in wages. Note,overall wages, not wage rates. In fact, even the likes of penalty rates for say Sundays have been a major contributor of both casualization and reduced hours for many workers effected by these rate increases.
Let's face it, if we call a plumber on a Sunday, he charges an increased rate, and his staff get pay more. No effect to him as the consumer pays the increase in wages. In your local coffee shop, the owner pays the extra wages, then wears the costs in most cases as the consumer, while willing to pay double time for the Sunday plumber, refuses to do the same at the coffee shop.
As an example, if the consumer would willingly pay 30% more for their foods on a Sunday, all would be fixed, but they won't, and that's because other owners, the likes of multinationals, would simply wear the extra costs. Just imagine how busy a Sunday plumber would be if they charged normal rates.

The problem is we have demanded a seven day society, but are unwilling to pay for it in most circumstances. We want our cake, but we also want to eat it.
Posted by rehctub, Wednesday, 30 May 2018 8:16:36 AM
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As for welfare, this brings me back to the baby bonus theory, of why it was what it was. To breed a society that can be controlled. Makes sense when you really think about it.

The fact is in the past decade we have accumulated a huge debt, without much to show for it, lost our motor manufacturing and we appear hell bent on replacing coal with renewables, at twice the price or more, risking thousands of jobs and few seem to care.

The flip side is that i'm of the opinion we are on the brink of a major recession the likes of what we have never seen before, unless you are 80 plus.
Posted by rehctub, Wednesday, 30 May 2018 8:29:40 AM
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