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NRA and Politics

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Do Congressmen support the NRA's agenda because they give them money or do they give them money because they support the NRA agenda?

Its a standard conceit of those on the left to see the 'other' as either evil or stupid (or both).

"I'm smart, educated, intelligent, oozing common sense and compassion and I'm anti-gun.Therefore anyone who isn't anti-gun , who doesn't agree with me, is either stupid or evil".

Since Congressmen (generally) aren't stupid, they must be, according to this 'thinking', evil.

So they vote the NRA agenda because of the money. No money, so the 'thinking' goes, and they'd vote the way their moral betters would like.

Here's a thought. Perhaps they'd vote that way irrespective of the money, but the money helps them stay in Congress and therefore helps them support the policy goals.
Posted by mhaze, Thursday, 26 April 2018 1:42:03 PM
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Dear Is Mise,

It's all very complicated isn't it.

But that's America. The system allows vested interests
to try to influence the way individual legislators vote
on specific issues. The NRA uses a variety of tactics.
From collecting petitions, taking court action, advertising
in the media, organizing floods of letters to legislators
on particular issues, pledging their members' votes to certain
candidates, donating money on election campaigns, or even
resorting to outright bribery. Frequently they use lobbying,
the tactic of directly persuading decision makers. The
organisation also has highly-paid, full-time professional
staff of lobbyists who meet regularly with legislators
and government officials.

They're a very powerful group in the USA. It's a win situation.
And hard to beat.
Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 26 April 2018 3:40:31 PM
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Issy, the Australian chapter of the NRA, which goes under several erroneous names here, donates big time to far right politicians and parties. It Seeks to influence Australian politics in the same way as it influences the American political system. Some of that money has gone to One Nation, The Katter Australian Party and others. The shadowy group the Shooting Industry Foundation of Australia spent $550,000 on the Queensland election alone. Who are these turkeys? The SSAA, another mob from right field, poured $440,800 into the pockets of the Liberal Democrats, the Shooters Fishers and Farmers Party, the Katter Australia Party, and others. No wonder the likes of Senator Leyonhjelm is so pro gun!
Posted by Paul1405, Friday, 27 April 2018 5:08:27 AM
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Dear Is mise,

Oh come on mate just do the bloody math.

That is really a surprising small amount. Only $2.4 million from a nation wide 'Victory' campaign?

$1.9 Million from small donations of $200 or less works out to be probably just 19,000 people putting their hands in their pockets for the NRA if we assume $100 each.

Yet over 500,000 people marched in Washington for gun control.

The NRA are well versed in propaganda and lobbying but they are in no way representative of the wider community. The fact you are on here assisting them and gleefully touting their so called 'success' after the Parkland tragedy is deeply reprehensible and you should be ashamed.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Friday, 27 April 2018 9:57:24 AM
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Washington, headquarters of the swamp that Trump is draining, full of bureaucrats who desperately want the population disarmed so they can't exact suitable retribution on the bureaucrats, when they ultimately find out how much they are ripping being ripped off.

Of course they would march. The last thing they want is a switched on, armed population. God, they might demand justice, with the mussel to back the demand.
Posted by Hasbeen, Friday, 27 April 2018 12:00:45 PM
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Republican congress(wo)men vote the way the NRA wants because of all the monetary support the NRA gives them in the same way that Democrat congress(wo)men vote the way the pro-abortion lobby decrees because of all the monetary support Planned Parenthood et al give them.
Posted by mhaze, Friday, 27 April 2018 1:51:27 PM
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