Hi Joe,

No. Well not as far as the Greens are concerned. Your attempt to equate The Greens to "revolutionary groups" of the past 200 years is erroneous, and then to carry that fallacy further and associate Greens with Bolshevism is certainly wrong. The Greens are as confined to the social political parameters that exist in Australia as are the Liberal and Labor parties. Why must those who hold with progressive ideas, always be seen by some as having a secret hidden agenda? Could it be possible that the bloke with the t-shirt which reads 'Save The Whales' has no other agenda than saving whales, and his message is not short hand for "Down with the Bourgeoisie, Long Live the Proletariat, bring on the Firing Squads" which he could not spell. or fit on his shirt.

J Bowyer, hear, hear. I think we have our Donald. It's his sister, and I like her. Like her brother she knows little or nothing about politics. But she's learning. As weak as she is on policies and presence, I think she would be just what the swamp needs. Like her brother who promised he was 'going to drain the swamp', that's exactly what he has been doing. Ridding the White House of the Rothschild implants that have been advising most previous Presidents for centuries. Sure she won't have a clue what she is doing, so it means we won't be getting these bloody laws that target every Aussy for the worse and not the better. We won't have to worry when the next hit in the neck and our hip pockets will be coming. We will have a bit of social stability for as long as she was in charge. As if we don't have enough laws. I for one look forward to a cessation of law making as they are too hostile to the greater population and like all laws, designed to be of benefit to the govt not the people. So stuff em'. Put Pauline in charge and we can take a breather, and catch our breathe, for a while at least. LOL.

Totally wacko off the planet comment from you ALTRAV. Yep! you've got it in a nutshell, it was The Donald's sister that hurt the Greens in the recent Vic. elections. Not only have you got the hots for The Donald's sister. The Donald also has the hot for her as well, anything in a skirt does The Donald. Introduce him to the Lovely Pauline.

Paul, you misunderstand me - I'm not 'equating' Greens with Bolsheviks, but merely pointing out that the class basis of the Greens and of the Bolsheviks (and of the leaders of Fascist parties in the past, indeed of the 1789 French revolutionaries too) is similar, if not identical: well-educated, relatively affluent, self-obsessed, frustrated at their lack of rightful power, contemptuous of the lower classes/bogans/peasants etc., and given to sloganeering rather than actually getting down with the down-trodden and working with them, i.e. doing anything useful.

Such people have a clear-eyed vision of the Utopian Future (which of course, in their own minds, the bogans don't have) and are not swayed by bourgeois concerns like sympathy for other people's lives or livelihoods - after all, one must not weaken in attaining the ultimate goal of supremacy over one's class enemies. How many times have we seen this virtuous purity already ? How often has it degenerated into a reign of terror, one it hs enough power ? And actually degenerated into some ghastly form of fascism, by whatever name one might give it ?

Thankfully the Greens will never get enough power to implement these ultimate aims. So they will gather in their restaurants and bistros and arts seminars to console each other about the blind, unfeeling world around them, as they sip delicately on their kale smoothies and nibble their goat's cheese, before they head off to their fitness trainers.

Joe

Hi Joe,

I have attended many Greens meeting at various levels over a number of years, and the revolution has not been big on the agenda. In fact I have never come across it as a discussion item at all, not even in causal discussions. Have you ever encountered it as a item for discussion among Greens, or are you presupposing it must be so.

"getting down with the down-trodden and working with them" and how do you do that yourself? You seem rather contemptuous of the educated in society calling them self-obsessed. As for "contemptuous of the lower classes/bogans/peasants etc." I'll add the unemployed, Aboriginals, gays, Muslims and others and I find some in the Liberal Party fit that bill better than any. They must be about to start the revolution, do you agree.

"Thankfully the Greens will never get enough power to implement these ultimate aims" Joe you are totally ignorant of the Greens, and those ultimate aims only exist in your minds eye. You would do better to stick to what you do best, dumping on our Indigenous

"Ridding the White House of the Rothschild implants that have been advising most previous Presidents for centuries"

What's their secret?

To live so long is a major achievement in itself.