To AJ. I doubt the people that fit the criticism of having nothing of their own to say (only say something about someone else's position) will change. But thanks for the encouragement. As for poetry and it's critics, that's a spot on observation. Seems very true. That said, it doesn't sound like a topic you are fond of or support. Is there something that you do? (Go ahead and reuse a topic from the past if you'd like.)

To Opinionated. Congratulations, you've figured it out. Your the inspiration of this topic. Having never said anything you actually believe in, support or are fond of, your views measure as nothing of value. But to say you've proven anyone wrong is to add more lies to your squadron of fables. I'd like to see you actually read someone's comment and reply to what they actually said instead of making up your own version of crap. But that's a different topic. Do you have anything you actually believe in, support, or are fond of? It's a sincere question. (Watch as you disregard it).

To ttbn. Well said and good advise. Thanks.

To AMID. .... thank you? I think?

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That should clear up the premise of this topic. If there're still confusion, that's on you not me. Go ahead and state at least one thing you are for. (To be clear, that list does not include things you are against).

Well said, Albie. It's not as if anyone here is going to be called upon to sort out Australia's or the world's problems. I particularly agree with your comment on posters insisting on regaling us with references to 'prove' their point. They are not even expressing their own opinions, but somebody else's.

//Having never said anything you actually believe in, support or are fond of, your views measure as nothing of value.//

I think it's fairly obvious what Op2 is most fond of: himself.

If you really want to get fired up and throw abuse at other posters, like me give up this political, religious, social, economic forum OLO, and like me joint the 'Flower Arranging for Beginners' Forum, where you can really get stuck in!

To give you and example, just the other day Betty Bolter from Bognor, had the audacity, the unmitigated gall, to post that gardenia's are a nicer flower than the petunia's! Did I see the frangipani in that statement. I let her have it with both barrels, the disgusting bitch. Its people like BBB who make those kind of false claims that are undermining the social, political, economic and religious fabric of society. After that statement I accused Betty of everything, being a Nazi, a Communists, a racists, a member of ISIS. I even thew in the ultimate of hate speak, yes I have to admit it, I wished for Lace Bugs to invade Betty's prize display of camellias! That got me a 12 month ban from the forum. So I'm back here to annoy you fellas.

Well I believe there's a genuine place to embarrass, make fun of, ridicule and humiliate others; but never harass.
Just as BDS might be considered a non-violent form of protest to some, I see this practice as a non-violent form of correction.

- Correcting stupid and idiotic logic and behaviour.

I was raised in a way that if you did something stupid you'd get called out for it and laughed at, which had the effect of making you wise up to said issue.

- So said frowned on behavior has a place and it makes us all wiser.
But some can take it and others cant, and you need to be mindful of that.

I believe that it's up to everyone to 'get and stay on top of things' and 'not let others get the best of you'.
If you've allowed someone here to get the best of you and you want to wave the white flag, thats your business.

I'd consider Toni my biggest nemesis of this forum, the person who challenges my comments and frustrates me the most.
But I don't cry or get upset about it, I'm glad of it.
I don't get scared to say what I think for fear Toni will respond, I'll say what I'm gonna say anyway, and ultimately its just as much a friendly battle of wits that any real serious animosity.
I don't go to bed all worked up and hating him, though I may have once or twice.
The point is I don't get to say whatever I like without someone else keeping me in check too.
That if I say something stupid I know I'll get called out for it, and thats a good thing really, because it keeps me grounded.

Everyone has a right to an opinion, but no-ones 'stupid' should go unchecked.

"....you did something stupid you'd get called out for it and laughed at...".

That's called humiliation; not a very nice way to treat a person no matter how 'stupid' you think they are.