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Someone Had To Say It.

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Technology or the lack of it has nothing to do with goodness.
Goodness, not my word but first used here by a semi-literate person, has no connection with goodness. I wrote of technology before the semi-literate used the word. Technology is useful and is the mark of a civilised society.Lack of technology is just one indicator of an uncivilised society, if you can even term aboriginal culture at the time as a society. Your common refusal to actually say who your querulous post are directed at probably precludes you from understanding 'society' and 'civility'.
Posted by ttbn, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 8:38:44 AM
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"Remember, the next time you bash on your keyboard, or put your mobile phone to your ear, or eat polyunsaturated margarine, the chances are you did nothing to provide those things for yourself, someone else did."

Thankyou ,Paul. I always give thanks to people smarter than I am - I have never invented anything myself - but I also remember that the Stone Age occupiers of this country never provided me, or you, with anything, and did not contribute one iota to the country we now live in, although they, like us, benefit enormously from the efforts of those who did.
Posted by ttbn, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 8:46:40 AM
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Technical innovation in the early days of human history was incredibly difficult to bring about. Peter Bellwood, in his "First Farmers", concluded that agriculture had been initiated in only half a dozen places on earth: Mesopotamia, perhaps northern China, perhaps west Africa, New Guinea, Meso-America and perhaps Peru. Innovation has spread painfully slowly across the African-European-Asian landmass, from which Aboriginal people were isolated, even more so in that crucial period after the Ice Age.

So intelligent people here were trapped in the Stone Age, with the most primitive technology, weapons, food-collecting tools and household implements. No pottery, so a huge amount of the available plants simply weren't accessible for food. Of course, since foraging people are, by definition, mobile, lugging grinding-stones around with them already (well, the women, of course), lugging even more fragile pots would have been impractical.

Groups would have been vulnerable to Australia's frequent and devastating droughts. So populations would have reached a very low level of capacity, only to be cut down again and again by those droughts. Life expectancy would have been barely forty, given the high infant mortality and - let's be honest - extremely hard lives, especially for women. Extinction of entire groups was highly likely.

Then along come the British in 1788. Can any Aboriginal academics or spokespeople really claim that everything would have been better if they hadn't ?

Of course not. So the Narrative has to dwell on the most dreadful stories and policies that its adherents can dream up. Hence the ceaseless clamour for rumoured massacre sites to be thoroughly examined by archaeologists and forensic scientists. [Or did I dream that ?]

Evidence is what counts, not rumours, after all.

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 9:05:05 AM
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//Goodness, not my word but first used here by a semi-literate person//

//Anthony J.H. Morris, a Brisbane barrister, believes that virtue signallers , using Australian aborigines to demonstrate their goodness//

XD
Posted by Toni Lavis, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 9:18:56 AM
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ttbn. to prove my point; On 'Gilligan's Island' the Professor could invent anything you like, even a way of keeping your one and only set of clothing looking brand new forever. But the silly sod couldn't fix a one metre square hole in a boat, and get em' off the island. Then I think he didn't want to, as he was bonking Ginger! Personally I would have murdered Gilligan on day one, all problems solved!

p/s When their gear was in the wash, what were they wearing? Unfortunately I missed that episode.
Posted by Paul1405, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 9:54:16 AM
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ttnn:
I would like to make it clear that I have nothing against modern Australians descending from the original inhabitants. You probably feel the same way.

Neither do I.

What I do object to is ignorant, virtue signalling anti-every-everything-Australian whiteys spewing out rubbish about people who were trapped in the Stone Age when civilisation found them.

I'm not anti-aboriginal. These people were trapped in the stone age when civilization found them. That can't be deigned. Some, like the ones in very remote communities are hell bent on retaining that stone age past but also want modernity given to them for free.

The ones I dislike intently are the Socialist Academic Aboriginals who just like to kick up a fuss but don't really do anything to help their own people. As long as they keep getting paid heaps from the Public Purse. If they fix the problems then they might lose their Pony.

<Technology or the lack of it has nothing to do with 'goodness>

Absolutely right.

ttn: I have never invented anything myself

I have. I've had to. As the old Jewish man said, "You should be married to my wife."
Posted by Jayb, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 10:31:57 AM
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