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Is 'mental illness' too often the excuse?

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I mentioned the monthly reports of Germany's problems with muslims.
I have not seen it yet, but here is a report for the UK for the
whole of 2017.
It is not a report for everyday but for each month of 2017.

http://tinyurl.com/y8hxov8f

When the percentage here becomes the same level why won't we get the
same level of problems ?
Posted by Bazz, Tuesday, 2 January 2018 9:15:08 AM
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Bazz,

An interesting link; have you read "Pope Patrick" by Peter De Rosa?

A good read.
https://www.publishersweekly.com/978-0-385-48548-7
Posted by Is Mise, Tuesday, 2 January 2018 9:33:40 AM
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HI BAZZ...

I've read the latest link (tinyuri.com) you've kindly provided us, and I tend to agree, what will happen here if the numbers increase? It's not a policing issue at this stage, then surely it must be of a political imperative?

The question is what can be done about it here in Oz? We can't just deport them if they're AU citizens, sure we can drastically curb any further Islamic entry. But you and I both know, Malcolm TURNBULL won't, or can't do it; and Labour's Bill SHORTIN will only encourage more Islamic immigration and refugee intakes, purely to bolster his numbers? I guess what we need is a truely Conservative Leader, to make those hard choices and do what's best for the Country as a whole? And who is such a person?

Mr DUTTON is doing a good job but he's still being hampered by those of the left of his party, and of course Malcolm TURNBULL himself. Tony ABBOTT was the only bloke who had the energy, the verve, and courage to do such a thing. But he and his ultra-conservative supporters, are so far out of favour, well I really don't know anymore BAZZ?
Posted by o sung wu, Tuesday, 2 January 2018 11:13:34 AM
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Oh Sung Wu, I understand your indecisiveness. I have it myself.
I recently wrote to my MHR and told him I won't be voting liberal
unless something is done about immigration.
Trouble is it is a blue ribbon Liberal seat.

It seems to be like talking to a brick wall. Shorten is the same as
he is determined to increase the amount of solar & wind and decrease
the amount of coal fired stations. He also does not seem convincing
that he would not bring in the boats.
Turnbull won't let the boats in but he won't reduce immigration and
will not support coal or nuclear power stations.

What we need is for Lucy and the other wives to issue the same
ultimatum that the women of Athens issued.
Posted by Bazz, Tuesday, 2 January 2018 5:31:02 PM
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Is Nise, eeerrr no I have not read it.
Posted by Bazz, Tuesday, 2 January 2018 5:38:39 PM
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"Is 'mental illness' too often the excuse?

I've just found an interesting article by
former Premier of Victoria - Jeff Kennett
in The Herald Sun, Friday, December 29, 2017.

In it Mr Kennett states:

"There is something seriously wrong when individuals
affected by drugs can commit a crime and then argue
mental illness as a ground for being unfit to stand
trial."

"There is something seriously wrong when senior police
say the perpetrator of a crime was suffering a mental
illness, as though that excuses the crime and putting
the idea in the mind of the magistrate before whom the
perpetrator first appears."

"There is something seriously wrong when a person on
drugs attacks a law-enforcement officer and is penalised
with 200 hours of community service."

"I am the first to admit our legal system is not perfect.
But I am sick to death of people who commit serious
offences claiming before the courts that they were not in a
fit mental condition."

"I am sick to death of the way the courts in too many cases,
impose what appear totally inappropriate punishments for
crimes."

"Imagine if the individual who attacked a police officer while
on ice were to commit another ice-related offence or any
offence before completing the 200 hours community service.
The judicial officer who handed down that sentence had better
pray that does not happen".

"I do not accept that having a mental illness results in a
person committing a crime."

"Mental illness has become a defence used by some for
their unacceptable behaviour."

"Of course, there are many shades of mental illness - from
stress and anxiety, through to the most serious conditions
that are, to date, incurable."

"But with correct medication, a person can lead a
productive and successful life. Almost all of those people
who suffer from a mental illness would never even consider
committing a crime."

Mr Kennett goes on to say that we should stop making
excuses for those who commit serious offences. It sends
the wrong message, and discourages those whom we expect to
protect us.

to be continued...
Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 5:31:52 PM
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