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Posted by ttbn, Thursday, 21 December 2017 10:40:37 AM
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Ha !;
“defacto” support for the housing industry. Builders reported on radio yesterday that they cannot get timber and jobs are being put on hold because deliveries are delayed. Posted by Bazz, Friday, 22 December 2017 3:35:36 PM
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The enormous costs, without gain, of mass immigration are just one result. Don't forget the the dangers that irresponsible Australian governments have wreaked on us.
We used to be able to do our Christmas shopping in Melbourne's CBD without the risk of being mowed down by an Afghan import fixated on how 'Muslims are treated'. We used to be free of marauding African gangs. We used to be free of 'Diversity Bollards', as they are called by Mark Steyn. 'Strength in diversity', the loonies used to cry. Now we have to erect bollards in our streets to protect ourselves from that diversity. Posted by ttbn, Saturday, 23 December 2017 7:40:53 AM
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From Quadrant,
"There has been a steady stream of puff pieces in the mainly left-leaning media claiming that mass immigration is both necessary and beneficial. However, the arguments proffered tend to be exasperatingly specious and quickly fall apart under scrutiny. Despite the various claims by some business groups and others, Australia does not have a general skills shortage requiring heavy and sustained inflows. Moreover, current immigration policy is, in fact, largely detached from Australia’s labour market requirements. As a recent report by the Australian Population Research Institute found, any relationship that existed between skills recruited under the points-tested visa subclasses and particular shortages in the labour market has eroded under successive governments. This is resulting in large numbers of ‘skilled’ permanent migrants of dubious professional quality and relevance in fields such as IT and accounting, despite these sectors having a significant surplus of workers. In any case, the annual immigration report by the Australian Productivity Commission made it clear that about half of the skilled migrant steam includes the family members of skilled migrants, with only around 30 percent of Australia’s total permanent migrant intake actually ‘skilled’. Nor can immigration realistically provide a solution to the ‘problem’ of an ageing population, as is frequently claimed by immigration enthusiasts. Again, the Productivity Commission has stated in numerous reports that immigration is not a feasible countermeasure to an ageing population since migrants themselves also age. As migrants grow old, even larger inflows will be required to support them, and so on ad infinitum. In other words, using immigration in an attempt to counter population ageing is the epitome of an unsustainable Ponzi scheme." http://quadrant.org.au/opinion/qed/2017/07/great-immigration-non-debate/ Posted by leoj, Saturday, 23 December 2017 7:57:59 AM
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Even the ABC is getting cynical about immigration. To our inept Treasurer's claim of creating 371,000 jobs over the the last year, the ABC says: well, with the population growing so fast through mass immigration, you have to create a lot of jobs to keep up.
That means, we bring all these people here, THEN we create jobs to keep them busy? How bloody ridiculous! Even old Lefty has got the message: “However, it (mass immigration) doesn't necessarily make life any better for the people who live in the country and arguably, makes it a lot worse.” When we get this sort of comment from the ABC, we know just how out of touch our politicians really are. Posted by ttbn, Saturday, 23 December 2017 8:51:04 AM
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I believe one very important point to consider is our lack of water and power. Apart from all the reasons given so far, these two resources are fundamental to our daily lives. We are already short on both. So before we talk about more people coming to Australia we need to talk about more services and infrastructure.
Posted by ALTRAV, Sunday, 24 December 2017 7:17:48 AM
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Indeed Altrav, and sewage services capacity is another straining at
the seams from one report recently. It seems likely that the desalinisation plants may get more use than had been expected. The way things are going in Europe we may soon need a European refugee policy. Germans are already leaving for Poland and Hungary. Jews are leaving France for Israel and the US due to moslem attacks. So far Swedes have not reported much emigration. These are just a foretaste of things to come. Posted by Bazz, Sunday, 24 December 2017 9:06:20 AM
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Bazz mentions refugee problems. This is the area where the brakes should be put on immigration first. Crooks calling themselves refugees are of no use at all to the West. They cost us big time, without including the terror and crime they bring to us.
Australia is one of ONLY 27 countries suicidal enough to take in 'refugees'. 160 countries refuse to commit cultural suicide. The only people coming to Australia should be useful to Australia, and most of the masses coming here at present are of no use at all, apart from further enriching already rich robber barons and politicians at the expense of the rest of us. Posted by ttbn, Sunday, 24 December 2017 9:42:09 AM
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Good to see this morning that New Zealand bikie gangster, Shane Martin, has been banned from entering Bali where he thought he and his family would be spending Christmas. We had to listen to the moans and groans about his banning from Australia. We will probably be again treated to loopy media laments about what a fine fellow he really is.
Posted by ttbn, Sunday, 24 December 2017 9:50:45 AM
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Further we will have to be politically incorrect and not include
those ME immigrants to Europe who may have attained German or French nationality. As those German & French and other Europeans, including UK citizens start applying we will have to put a religious ban on moslems. Not to do so will counteract the purpose of allowing the Europeans in. Call it the White Australia policy if you like but many moslems are quite fair anyway so that title won't fit anyway. There is no point in increasing the number of moslems here by immigration from Europe. Posted by Bazz, Sunday, 24 December 2017 10:33:04 AM
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This Shane Martin guy, can't be much of a gangster if I haven't heard of him. What has he done that is so bad that a country like Indonesia would refuse him entry? The main reason he was probably rejected is that the local authorities were told to reject entry because he would be taking criminal deals and activities away from their own criminals and want to protect their 'patch'. Indonesia is a very corrupt country, so it's laughable to think this guy, who has more than likely done nothing as severe or criminal as the Indonesians, was refused entry. He was probably going to 'brush up' on his criminal skills.
Posted by ALTRAV, Sunday, 24 December 2017 10:48:49 AM
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With Australia now the fastest growing country in the OECD, the Coalition, Labor – even the Greens – ignore majority opinion
Van Onselen said that governments are running mass immigration to “keep growth artificially high” and as a “defacto” support for the housing industry.
O'Sullivan said Australia was “running to stand still”, and that it is costing the public “$100, 000 per person” for each immigrant. She refutes the 'small population' idea that abounds in Australia, saying that, “our cities are huge by developed country standards” and that our cities have gone will past economies of scale to “diseconomies” of scale. (Source: 'Herald Sun').
Prior to these revelations, we have know that successive governments have have been able to disguise two recessions with excessive immigration and covering up the lack of GDP growth per capita. The Liberal-National Coalition and Labor have “caved in to pro-immigration groups, property developers, big retailers and foolhardy Treasury officials who use planeloads of new arrivals to artificially inflate Australia’s GDP numbers, wtith scant regard for the lowering of individual wealth.
A big slowdown in immigration would allow housing starts and infrastructure to catch up with population. It would give harder-to-assimilate recent migrants more time to integrate with the wider Australian community before many more came in