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Posted by Ezhil, Sunday, 26 November 2017 8:16:44 PM
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Ezhil,
If a terrorist was shooting at you what would you do, or hope that the police or someone else who was armed would do? Posted by Is Mise, Monday, 27 November 2017 8:32:25 AM
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Another ranter.
Posted by ttbn, Monday, 27 November 2017 9:06:59 AM
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Quote "Religious fundamentalism should be controlled by preaching moral values such as truth, honesty and humanism to the people".
Just what the Catholic church was doing while some priests were screwing the alter boys. There have also been a number of cases where the imams were doing the same. The morality of the teacher is not always what you want to be doing the job. Posted by Philip S, Monday, 27 November 2017 9:30:04 AM
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There is only one thing behind terrorism - Islam. All the talk about poverty, lack of education and so on is bumf. Islam is fighting a war against the West, and the West had better start fighting back if it wants to survive. 30,000 terrorists attacks since 9/11. So much for the 'war against terror' George W. Bush rabbited on about! Since that time, there have been more apologists for Muslim terror than there have been warriors. Idiots posing as heads of state are still whining 'why oh why?' after each atrocity, when most of us know why: it is Islam you fools and gutless wonders. It's well past the time you should have cut the head off the snake. And it's well past time for citizens to demand action and to replace politicians with real people.
Posted by ttbn, Monday, 27 November 2017 10:09:14 AM
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' "Religious fundamentalism should be controlled by preaching moral values such as truth, honesty and humanism to the people".'
Just what secularist do while butchering unborn babies right up to birth. Posted by runner, Monday, 27 November 2017 10:45:32 AM
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"If a terrorist was shooting at you what would you do, or hope that the police or someone else who was armed would do?"
Automatic HE rapid-fire from CCTV robot-barrels. Same for drink-drivers who endanger cats and passengers : shoot on sight . 30,000 attacks since 9/11 ? Or is it 460 ? Maybe 23,871,232 is a better statistic ? How's about 1/4 million road deaths in China yr. , 37000 yr. in US and 1.3 million yr. in the world? War on Toyota , Kim Jong-Un launches kamikaze petrol-bomb shock and awe missiles on Jap car fascists. Posted by nicknamenick, Monday, 27 November 2017 10:54:40 AM
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ttbn,
"There is only one thing behind terrorism - Islam." I hardly think that Islam had anything to do with Ireland or the Basques et al. Posted by Is Mise, Monday, 27 November 2017 12:28:14 PM
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I want to shoot irish and Spanish
Posted by nicknamenick, Monday, 27 November 2017 12:53:24 PM
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Nick,
Can't find you an Irish but the .43 Spanish is a good round to shoot. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.43_Spanish Posted by Is Mise, Monday, 27 November 2017 2:21:38 PM
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Franco couldn't find Irish. "The Irish Brigade was blighted by bitter infighting between O’Duffy and his officers while Franco was unimpressed by its lack of military expertise. The Brigade’s first battle in February 1937 was with another Nationalist battalion who mistook them for the enemy while their next (and final) action ended in failure when the Brigade’s officers mutinied, refusing an order to attack the well-defended village of Titulcia. Drunkenness and indiscipline added to these problems and the Brigade was disarmed and ordered out of Spain by Franco."
Posted by nicknamenick, Monday, 27 November 2017 3:19:26 PM
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Is Mise,
I hardly think that Ireland and Catalonia have anything to do with terrorism. And, Islamic terrorists are not trying to throw off the yoke of governments they don't like: they are trying to take over the world, and to govern that world with their own warped system. Posted by ttbn, Monday, 27 November 2017 5:14:55 PM
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boom boom boom rule Brittania rule the waves Briddonz neva neverr shalbe slaaves
Posted by nicknamenick, Monday, 27 November 2017 5:21:29 PM
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ttbn.
Where have you been hiding for the last few years, terrorism has been part of Ireland' troubles, in recent times, since the early 1960s. How did Catalonia get into the discussion? Posted by Is Mise, Monday, 27 November 2017 7:07:59 PM
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//I hardly think that Ireland and Catalonia have anything to do with terrorism.//
Ireland? Naught to do with terrorism? Sorry, but I don't believe in the Pub Bombing Fairy. I love the Irish and the English and the Scots (the Welsh can bugger off and 'tend to' their sheep), but I'm quite prepared to admit that some of them are currently accommodated at Her Majesty's pleasure for terrorist offences. //And, Islamic terrorists are not trying to throw off the yoke of governments they don't like: they are trying to take over the world// This is why you should set the bar low, so you'll never be disappointed. Megalomania is guaranteed to lead to crushed dreams, especially if would-be world conquerors fail to realise that: 1) The last person to make a halfway decent attempt at taking over the 'world' was Genghis Kahn about 800 years ago, and it all fell apart fairly quickly after his death. 2) They haven't got the numbers. 3) They haven't got the resources. 4) Any serious foray outside of their silly little tribal battles into a greater global sphere will see them get squashed, very heavily, by the military might of NATO. If there is WWIII, it will be quite brief and quite decisive, and those with the best technology will win. //boom boom boom rule Brittania rule the waves Briddonz neva neverr shalbe slaaves// Oh dear, did somebody say mattress to Mr. Lambert? And did those feet in ancient time, Walk upon Englands mountains green: Dum da de da de dum de da dum De dum de da da dum de dum... ... BRING ME MY BOW OF BURNING GOLD; BRING ME MY ARROWS OF DESIRE: BRING ME MY SPEAR: O CLOUDS UNFOLD! BRING ME MY CHARIOT OF FIRE! I will not cease from Mental Fight, Nor shall my Sword sleep in my hand: Till we have built Jerusalem, In Englands green & pleasant Land. Posted by Toni Lavis, Monday, 27 November 2017 7:11:28 PM
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Israeli terrorism ? Might just work . That's if IS don't fit rockets into all the minarets .
Posted by nicknamenick, Monday, 27 November 2017 7:20:59 PM
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Ezhil
<two concrete reasons for terrorism is well known. 1. Basic needs for a decent living not being met is an important reason for the Maoist terrorist activities. The so called civilized society and its democratically elected governments have miserably failed in this regard. 2. Religious fundamentalist ideas is another important cause for the violent activities in South West Asian region and Africa. Probably there is some poverty related element for the mushrooming of religious fundamentalism in those regions. This signifies the failure of conventional religions in mitigating the suffering of the people.> Oh here the Muslims and black countries go again, blaming the well run and organised Western and European countries for their poverty and troubles. These people are responsible for the running and prosperity of their countries. One word to these male dominated societies. Contraception. You cannot produce more people than your country land and resources will support. It would seem obvious the grossly overpopulated countries are the poverty stricken ones. 7billion people in the world and rising. Even many animals are being driven to extinction by the ever expanding human populations. Instead of blaming countries like the West where women are empowered, and so the whole society prospers because of this, maybe some of the males and especially the religious ones Could look at what they themselves are doing to bring about the misery caused by overpopulation which leads to lack of resources and poverty. Western countries are not to blame and bear no responsibility for the mess in these countries. The leaders of these countries are the ones who fail their people. Don’t look at successfully run countries with jealousy and blame them for your own failures. Accept responsibility. Religion is just used as a cloak to mask genocide. Posted by CHERFUL, Monday, 27 November 2017 9:17:26 PM
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Your opinion is feudalistic. The whole world is one. Let us not blame one another. Let us try to understand the causes for the problems that humanity feces. Let each one of us, the world citizens, contribute for improving the lot of the people. Fanaticism of religions create havoc in the world. Feudal mind set makes a person unjust
Posted by Ezhil, Tuesday, 28 November 2017 11:30:42 PM
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To Ezhil.
What you've proposed might help in the future to prevent people heading down the wrong path. But today, those who are wicked and yearn for death, their actions need to be addressed. Their consquences swift and fierce, so that others do not repete their actions later because they felt there was success in them. Terrorism in any form should not be allowed. It should be silenced and removed before it spreads. For the sake of those who survive and the sake of future victims. That said, there is one other issue. Poverty is not the only element that creates a sense of violence. Poverty invites crime because of the instability, but so does wealth invite crime because of greed. And in that respect some wars of the past, brought on by rich special interests of different nations have left many countries improvised and ripe for the call for terror against all they hate. Not only would it be difficult to make a sustainable economy that looks after the weaker and fends off poverty, but it might not be long lasting, and cause a new generation of selfish ambitions or of needy self entitlements. In both rich and poor we need a culture shift more then a money shift. Love your neighbor kind of thing, not a competition till someone finally says enough is enough and joins an army of discruntled and hateful militants. Posted by Not_Now.Soon, Wednesday, 29 November 2017 4:07:45 AM
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"Let us try to understand the causes for the problems that humanity feces. Let each one of us, the world citizens, contribute for improving the lot of the people."
Humanity's feces? Well you can find out ALL ABOUT these things, right here. I'm gonna keep pushing this book until at least one other person reads it. Seriously, you're all like chooks with your heads cut off. You want to make sense of things? You want to make sense of the world? Read This: http://modernhistoryproject.org/mhp?Article=NoneDare Posted by Armchair Critic, Thursday, 30 November 2017 9:35:21 AM
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It is 'humanity faces' and not 'humanity feces'. It is an inadvertent error.
Posted by Ezhil, Thursday, 30 November 2017 3:02:33 PM
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What the Islamists terrorists have in common with the
IRA and Catalonians They all have as their aim,control of countries. The IRA (wanted an Irish Republic) hence the name. Irish Republican Army this means we want the Irish to control Ireland and British Rule of Ireland gone. The Catalonians want control of a country, by splitting off from Spanish rule. The Islamic Terrorists are trying to attack Europe and Western countries to try and bring them down so they can control these lands and countries. As I have said many, many times on this forum. All wars are over control of countries(the land and resources). Mankind is as territorial as all other species on the planet are. Posted by CHERFUL, Monday, 4 December 2017 10:39:04 PM
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Terrorism needs ZERO tolerance.
If a young person decides he will kill many people because of his fantasy of being a martyr or just for kicks he should be shown the exit door.A death sentence. Why should civilised people be exposed to mass murderers. Posted by BROCK, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 10:45:36 AM
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Reply to Cherful.
I want my next doors home .So I think I will kill him for it as he is not an Australian. The logic about the IRA, Catalonia,and others has a complete lack of civilised living with each other. Posted by BROCK, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 10:51:04 AM
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Terrorism is violent actions perpetrated to achieve some religious, political or social aims and to force governments to act.
Terrorism is not a phenomenon in itself. Terrorism per se does not exist; always an offshoot of fanaticism of religions, castes, languages or regions;always due to some grievance either real or perceived. But rulers do not view it as a consequential activity. Politicians say terrorism does not belong to any religion, caste or some such thing. No wonder governments try to control terrorist activities by inappropriate methods. Killing terrorists may bring some immediate relief and some mental satisfaction of revenge. But such revengeful retribution is retrograde. Such activities cannot eliminate terrorism as the basic cause remains un-mitigated. Counter terrorist activities using arms can be likened to symptomatic treatment resorted to when the diagnosis is uncertain. Medical science has not developed on the expected lines because not much attention is paid to etiological factors. Refining therapeutic armory has led only to prohibitively costly treatments besides dampening the quest for etiological enquiry.
Two concrete reasons for terrorism is well known. 1. Basic needs for a decent living not being met is an important reason for the Maoist terrorist activities. The so called civilized society and its democratically elected governments have miserably failed in this regard. 2. Religious fundamentalist ideas is another important cause for the violent activities in South West Asian region and Africa. Probably there is some poverty related element for the mushrooming of religious fundamentalism in those regions. This signifies the failure of conventional religions in mitigating the suffering of the people.
Control of terrorism needs a) Adequate and priority attention to poverty alleviation programmes. But governments, wasting huge economy on war gadgets and entertainment industry, is a grave folly and a wrong priority. b) Religious fundamentalism should be controlled by preaching moral values such as truth, honesty and humanism to the people. Materialistic society has totally abandoned the human values as unwanted. Huge sums splurged on election and cinema industry should be diverted to poverty alleviation schemes and to spread moral values among people in a concerted fashion