In the news with photos, such nasties as Christine Forster’s jacket ripped apart by protesters

"Ferals’ to blame for ugly protest
Christine Forster, Liberal councillor in the City of Sydney and sister of former prime minister Tony Abbott, is caught up in a crowd of protesters outside a fundraising event for Mr Abbott in Redfern, Sydney, Friday, November 10, 2017. “FERAL” protesters from the Greens have been blamed for violent scenes that erupted outside a Tony Abbott fundraiser on Friday night."
http://www.news.com.au/national/politics/christine-forsters-jacket-ripped-apart-by-protesters/news-story/e37181c9c44d021506196d6280440a2e

Previously there have been assaults such as the one claimed by secretive and violent far leftist Antifa,

"New footage reveals sheer violence of Andrew Bolt attack outside Melbourne restaurant
Alarming new footage shows commentator Andrew Bolt being assaulted on the streets of Melbourne in what he says is an example of how dangerous the city has become for conservatives.
...
Melbourne Antifa, a loose collection of left-wing activists united behind "anti-fascist action", appeared to claim a role in the incident, posting on Facebook that "some of our family in solidarity were attacked by Andrew Bolt while they were protesting today".
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/new-footage-reveals-sheer-violence-of-andrew-bolt-attack-outside-melbourne-restaurant-20170608-gwmx7k.html

What should be done to these thugs will never be done because, generally, the people who make the laws and those supposed to enforce the laws (the judiciary) are of a similar mind to the thugs. I remember reading about one magistrate, when letting off a Leftist thug, saying that he would be proud if his own daughter acted the same way. All people like you and me, leoj, and a few others can do, is stay away from crowds (miss the thugs and any acts of terror) and keep our heads down. We are headed for a long Dark Age in Australia and the West. Reason, logic and common sense don't exist any more.

The coat was destroyed with a large tearing sound where Police were gathered in defence of The Commonwealth of Australia , Macquarie Island and RMAF base Butterworth Malaysia . DNA and CCTV will expose the terrorists who may hang or at least get 10 or 25 years , castrating and flogging .

It is outrageous that this can happen with police present,

"Ms Forster was forced back from the entrance until police formed a ring around her and pushed their way through the crowd.
In the fray, Ms Foster’s jacket was torn apart. The City of Sydney councillor’s partner, Virginia Edwards, posted an image of the damage on Facebook.
Ms Edwards captioned it: “Physically shredding the jacket of off someone’s back is NOT how you express your political in viewpoint in Australia.” She added the hashtags “#shame” and “#unaustralian”."

http://www.news.com.au/national/politics/christine-forsters-jacket-ripped-apart-by-protesters/news-story/e37181c9c44d021506196d6280440a2e

And this from the awful NSW Green, Lee Rhiannon, an Australian Senator no less, who had the hide to blame the police,

"NSW police confirmed at least three people had been arrested during the protest. Greens Senator Lee Rhiannon, who was at the protest, defended the protesters and said the refugees on Manus Island needed to be evacuated.
“What was full-on was the police, the police have mishandled tonight,” Ms Rhiannon told AAP."

to late to stop these spoilt brats. Need to bring back cane to save future generations from such hatred of everything decent.

"It is outrageous that this can happen with police present,"
Yeah that's right , blame the cops , they're only human , under funded and out-gunned . The Lindt cafe was NOT their fault , the truck broke down and the commander was busy finding out if he was in charge or not. You need to apologise or David will sue you .

nicknamenick,

That may be your interpretation. But what I meant was that these violent cowards have no respect for the law, even where police are present and there is video evidence. The uniform has no effect on them, which is worrying.

The public realise there is political interference in the police, that the dead hand of the political masters is compromising effective policing and law enforcement.

Since when was assault and battery and damage to property to be excused because some bullying activists were the offenders? And reportedly there was a member of the Australian Senate, Lee Rhiannon(Brown) cheering them on. Whereas as a federal Senator, Rhiannon should be directing protesters to pursue the many channels, herself included, afforded by democracy.

The National Greens need to cut the NSW 'Eastern Bloc' Greens adrift and Lee Rhiannon ought be censured by the Senate.

Lastly and importantly, any member of the public who is abused and jostled about by the protester thugs needs to get advice from a lawyer on his/her rights, to pursue a Torts action against the offenders for battery and damages. There are witnesses and video evidence may also be found. Just because someone is in the public eye, or is present at a gathering going about their private, legal business does not entitle cowardly mongrels to take liberties with their person and property.

Christine Forster, for instance is not a young woman and a fall could have been devastating for her future mobility, resulting in lifelong pain and forever altered, limited, life choices.

Fat lot those selfish, serial protesting feral Green thugs care. Stirrers.

You'd imagine that federal Senator, Lee Rhiannon would be interested in Christine Forster's wellbeing and would be apologising. That would have been the classy thing to do, but no, that is not Rhiannon!

over the top leoj . Pulling out the stitching on her lightweight jacket is bad , but "terror thugs"?

It was vile for thugs to abuse Senator Dastyari over his origins and to accuse him of support for the Iranian ayatollahs, even though his family fled from them with their lives thirty years ago.

It was vile for leftist thugs to attack Christine Forster and threaten her with violence.

These days, can any of us stand back, weigh up what we are seeing, and call thuggery out for what it is, Right or Left ?

Or do we say, well yeah, they're sons-of-bitches, but they're OUR sons-of-bitches, and ignore what we don't want to see ?

I think I could turn and live with animals, they are so peaceful and self-contained.

Joe

Yes. Not very nice. But, once again, blame it on the Left themselves: their dismantling of our values enables far Right reactionaries. Why does the Left expect 'civilised' behaviour from other people when they are incapable of such good manners themselves? e.g. Abbott's sister, who is not and 'elderly' woman by the way.

What is a Muslim doing in a pub? What is a Muslim doing drinking what appears to be white wine? Don't tell me it could have been a soft drink because pubs don't serve soft drinks in wine glasses. Maybe Dastyari is not a serious, or even practising, Muslim. But he uses Islam as a reason why he is vilified. Hypocrite.

His beer-drinking mate behind him was certainly didn't step in to assist him. Perhaps he doesn't know who his friends really are.

Hi TTbn,

I don't think it was Dastyari who used Islam - that seems to be what he was abused for. And no, he's probably not a 'good, practising Muslim', he's an Australian, enjoying a drink, like you and me. So why should he be abused at all ?

Barking up the wrong tree, mate :)

Joe

What do you mean it's outrageous, that this can be done with the police present - The public only get the police force they deserve! Successive Govt's and the public at large, have whinged and whined like a Valiant Diff, about how aggressive the police are, thus they need to have greater scrutiny of their actions - well there you go, if I still wore blue, I'd simply stand back and watch, unless there was a clear threat of serious injury or loss of life!

Joe,

I don't agree with aggression against Dastyari but, unlike you I will not apologise for the little rat, and I cannot feel any sympathy for him. Yes, I am Australian but, unlike you and Dastyari, I don't drink alcohol. You are being presumptuous.

o sung wu,

No. We get the politicians we deserve. There is no excuse for police officers not to do their duty no matter what gutless oiks are in power. You are virtually accepting that the Australian public can no longer expect to be protected and kept safe by police.

Ttbn,

You don't drink alcohol ?! What, you're a Muslim ?!

I think you got the drift of what I was saying; like him or not, Dastyari (or Forster) shouldn't be subjected to threats, abuse or violence. Neither of them. Nobody should. Left or Right thuggery, it's all gutless and contemptible.

Joe

PS. Wow, I'm arguing on different threads with Paul and Ttbn at the same time. I must be a centrist.

You got it mate!

Thugs are goondas.
thug

noun
1.
a violent person, especially a criminal.
"he was attacked by a gang of thugs"
mugger, gangster, terrorist, gunman, murderer, killer, hitman, assassin,
2.
historical
a member of an organization of robbers and assassins in India. Devotees of the goddess Kali, the Thugs waylaid and strangled their victims, usually travellers, in a ritually prescribed manner. They were suppressed by the British in the 1830s.
Police will use bump-stock anti-thug firepower at political meetings to make the streets safe again.

No, Joe. I am not a Muslim. My non-drinking status has nothing to do with religion, but it will probably give you the opprtunity to compare me with Adolf Hiltler and Donald Trump, both teetotalers, with your attitude to my politics. You have already deemed me to be a racists, so go for it.

Hi Ttbn,

No, I've never said that you're a racist, from memory. And no, I was simply comparing your non-drinking habits with Dastyari's, nobody else's. What have you got against drinkers like Dastyari and me ? Incidentally, neither of us should be harassed by thugs. Nor Christine Forster.

Joe

Teetotal Trump drinks plonk on TV , in the bath and tweeting . He was called "old lunatic" and objects to "old" . Kim Jong-Un is not called "short and fat" nor is ttbn "racist".

Well you did, Joe. I'm not likely to forget being called such thing, even if it was a throwaway comment that you have forgotten. I could probably find the post, but I really can't be bothered. And I don't have anything against drinkers. What you do is no concern of mine.

I thunk the gist of this thread, and my comments, is the neither Dastyari nor Christine Forster should be attacked or harassed by thugs, Left or Right.

But if I'm wrong, and this thread really is about you, I apologise.

Joe

Second childhood, Joe?. The drink, maybe? It seems now that I cannot comment on your posts without being accused of thinking it's about me. Grow up, you silly old bugger.

I wonder if it was any of Shortens old thug union mates who tore off Abbott's sisters jacket?

Councillor Christine Forster talking about the melee and how threatened she was,

Cr Forster said people should able to walk into an event "unmolested, unassaulted and unattacked".

"Not being spat on, not being abused in my electorate of the City of Sydney, in my beautiful, wonderful city of Sydney and this was a terrible attack," she said.
"It was shocking to me and it was dangerous. These people put not only Virginia and me in danger, but they put the police who were looking after us in serious danger and they put themselves in danger by the way they were reacting.

"People were trying to punch us, people ripped the jacket off my back … If you want to make your political protest, anyone can make a political protest anywhere in Australia, but you don't do it like that."
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-11-10/christine-forster-gets-clothes-ripped-by-angry-manus-protesters/9139960
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One wonders though, if Councillor Forster has paused since to reflect and to question whether these are very much the same serial activists with the same handlers who were also responsible for the nasty 'equal marriage' demonstrations (both sides) and other *bleep* stirring?

Councillor Forster is right to say, "If you want to make your political protest, anyone can make a political protest anywhere in Australia, but you don't do it like that". Time for Malcolm Turnbull, Bill Shorten and Richard di Natale to step up to the plate as one force and discourage it.

A chain gang working on the roads sounds like a good idea, & we should add any of these judges who won't punish thugs & criminals.

The feigned indignation from the forums number one hard right poster, leoj. There was a bit of a noisy, but peaceful, protest outside a Liberal Party nosh up in Redfern, that part is true. Where is the evidence of extreme violence leoj? All you present is the biased reports from Murdoch's no news, News Ltd, and some political point scoring from Abbott's sister, hardly reliable evidence. In the only footage I have seen Ms Forster jacket is seen to be in perfectly good order as she enters the building, later it is mysteriously presented with a two foot long tear up one side. Amazing.

As a non violent person myself, If violence was to have occurred, I deplore it unequivocally.

Hi Paul,

Yeah, we didn't see Christine Forster out the back, deliberately tearing her jacket, did we ? News Ltd bastards.

And they didn't report that Dastyari had both his legs broken and his kidneys badly damaged by the kicking he got from New Ltd's paid Right-wing thugs. Did we read about that ? Hmmmm ?

End Fake News Now ! All Right is wrong ! All Left is good !

George Orwell, where are you ?

Joe

Hi Joe, for a moment I though the lefty accused was in lots of froth and bubble. Not so, that bleeding heart Liberal minded judge, Judge Roland Freisler has been assigned the case. Judge Freisler is well known for his sympathetic Liberal views, particularly towards anyone who would, without just cause. viciously attack a political high flyer.

I hope once Ms Forster is discharged from the intensive care ward she is well enough to return that coat of dubious quality to Kmart for a full refund.

The Iron Cross second class has been awarded by Heinrich Himmler for extreme bravery in the face of defeat :
"QANTAS CEO Alan Joyce became the latest public figure to cop a cream pie in the face during a $115 a head business breakfast in Perth yesterday, leaving everyone wondering what he had done to deserve it.

As he began the keynote address at the West Business Leadership Matters event, Mr Joyce was stunned to suddenly be smeared with what looked to be a lemon meringue pie by an elderly gentleman.

The man aged in his late 60s or early 70s and wearing a suit, calmly walked up behind him on to the stage at the Hyatt Regency without any resistance from security."

Paul1405, "All you present is the biased reports from Murdoch's no news, News Ltd.."

And you and the NSW 'Eastern Bloc' Greens are all smea and fabrication. As all can see, it was an ABC report and the link was given . Here it is again from the previous page,

Councillor Christine Forster talking about the melee and how threatened she was,

Cr Forster said people should able to walk into an event "unmolested, unassaulted and unattacked".

"Not being spat on, not being abused in my electorate of the City of Sydney, in my beautiful, wonderful city of Sydney and this was a terrible attack," she said.
"It was shocking to me and it was dangerous. These people put not only Virginia and me in danger, but they put the police who were looking after us in serious danger and they put themselves in danger by the way they were reacting.

"People were trying to punch us, people ripped the jacket off my back … If you want to make your political protest, anyone can make a political protest anywhere in Australia, but you don't do it like that."
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-11-10/christine-forster-gets-clothes-ripped-by-angry-manus-protesters/9139960

Cr Forster was recognised by the serial far leftist protesters and deliberately set upon. Perhaps you should be talking with your Greens 'Eastern Bloc' handlers about the definition of battery. That it should happen to a bystander, an elderly woman who is an elected Councillor, is an outrage. A custodial sentence is warranted, this is an attack on democracy as well because she was targeted as an elected Councillor.

Cr Forster should be considering her own action against her attackers and the City of Sydney Council should be paying for the action, with a claim for legal fees and costs.

I thin that Christine Forster today has more
important things on her mind - with the results
of the postal survey.

What's it matter now, it's all over bar the shouting. They got their wish for equality in marriage so they all should be happy. I wonder what the coppers of my era think? Patrolling the noir edges of Sydney in the 'Inner Metro. Detectives Car', looking out and waiting for radio calls to attend the many knifings, bashings, gay rapes, and yes even murder when these gay men were out seeking like minded people, in the parks, lane ways and public places of inner Sydney. I suppose none of that sort of thing happens now days?

Dear O Sung Wu,

Violence in the streets, in homes, in pubs, and
elsewhere, is not
assigned to any particular group. It has existed in
our society in the past, and unfortunately still
exists today. However at least now perhaps the
emphasis will be on allowing stable relationships
to flourish. Our society just may improve as a result.

Violent protesters should be prosecuted and their actions condemned by all, including members of Parliament.

I'm sorry FOXY you're wrong! I'm not talking about crimes occurring in the homes and pubs as you claim. There was a wave of crimes 'against the person', directly attributed to the (public) behaviour of homosexual men vs. the Anti-Poofter Gangs, especially in the environs of Greater Sydney and as far out as the Show Ground, Moore Park and Centennial Park. Together with many of the inner city parks including that of Wynyard and Hyde Parks. And that didn't exclude the infamous 'Wall' either opposite to St Vincent's Hospital.

This 'behaviour' or to be more precise 'gathering' by these homosexual men, at a particular Park's Toilet Block, would set of a chain reaction, where the local hoodlums would get wind of it, and they themselves would turn up, and would thoroughly delight in punching the 'bejesus' out of these gays. It was the coppers who had to protect the losing side (generally the Gays) and clean up the mess. Those days, locations were all by word of mouth, no mobile phones. I've seen as many as 15 or 17 or so, men well dressed, all loitering around a Park Toilet Block, organising ,who pair's off with who, and uses the facilities first. Occasionally there'd be a blue erupt between one of their own, usually over money. The real fireworks occurred when the Poofter Gangs arrived on the scene. I'll admit, some Gays could hold their hands up, and I say good on 'em.

.."directly attributed to homosexual men.."? You feel that attacks on dark skin people is due to dark skin? Homos gathering at night in a park causes gang men to travel there to start punching? A quick google and..

"On April 27, 2015, Christine Foster, a Liberal Party councillor and the sister of the then Australian Prime Minister, Tony Abbott, moved a motion at the Sydney City Council calling for a formal apology to the original gay and lesbian 1978 Mardi Gras marchers.
It was there in Darlinghurst Road that we faced the most brutal onslaught of the whole night. The police, arriving in numbers, took advantage of the semi darkness of the night, unleashing a reckless and ugly attack on the marchers.
They acted as if they had a licence to inflict as much injury as they could
Some 53 men and women were arrested, all had their names and occupations subsequently published in The Sydney Morning Herald. Many lost their jobs or housing as a result.
Gail Hewison, one of the women detained, described to me the whole experience of being locked-up without charge as one of shock and trauma. She had all her possessions taken away from her including her glasses. She told me she could hear the sounds of a man being horribly beaten in another cell.
The motion at Sydney Town Hall earlier in 2015, calling for an official apology to the 78ers for the violence of that June night in 1978, was strongly supported by Deputy Lord Mayor Robyn Kemmis, ."
The Conversation 2016.

Dear O Sung Wu,

I'm glad that you recognise what went on in Sydney.
We're all familiar with the swathe of murders that
rocked the LGBT Community in Sydney and the Central
Coast in the past decades when around 88 gay men were
beaten to their deaths. Of 88 cases, according to various
newspapers including the SMH, 30 still remain unsolved.

It is an injustice of epic proportions.

Here is just one link on the subject:

http://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/up-to-80-men-murdered-30-cases-unsolved-20130721-2qda7.html

I don't need any further reminders of those times thank you FOXY - as usual the Media know much more of what occurred then the police - will all this latest marriage equality bring to a halt all this gay hatred and the occasional bashings? I wonder, but what would I know, and neither would FOXY! I find it awfully hard sometimes to defend your 'Left leaning' proclivities, which are so plainly obvious, with your constant 'rolling out' of some quotation from here or from there. You are much more convincing when you articulate your opinions from the heart, instead of strengthening your position, from some citation or other.

o sung wu,

You have seen the light.

O sung wu
Foxy wrote :"Violence in the streets, in homes, in pubs, and
elsewhere, is not assigned to any particular group. It has existed in
our society in the past, and unfortunately still exists today."

That's a bland and obviously reasonable observation of fact. You tell her not to say it if you didn't say it and call her out as "leftie".
What sort of cop were you with that attitude , mister.

Round all the progressive entitled ANTIFA thugs up, send them to an island where they have to survive on their own, and turn it all into a reality tv show.
It would be the best reality tv you ever saw, they'd turn on each other in heartbeat.

Dear O Sung Wu,

I'm sorry if you don't like the mewspaper reports on
those times. I have no control on how newspapers
report things. Or the facts that they present.
I thought that providing a link would
help clarify those disturbing times and that hopefully
they will not return. Especially now that we are
seeing changes being made, and equity, in
our laws regarding gays. The future is certainly
looking brighter for us as a society.

Dear Nick,

Thank You for your kind words.

NICKNAMENICK; you should try 'n find yourself a keeper, my odd little friend! Instead of trying to be clever with your esoteric quips and other arcane and obscure missives. All of which I'm sure you're trying so hard to convince us all, of how intellectually brilliant you are! Why don't join in the conversation like everyone else, or is it a case you're bereft of anything bordering on sensible to add other than slinging off at the coppers. Oop's I've broken one of my own cardinal rules? 'Never, ever argue with a mug'? Besides I'm an easy mark for you, my little mate, I could only get a job as a copper.

Hi FOXY...

You know as well as I do, what's written in newspapers or reported in other mediums of the media, are quite often lacking in veracity and contrived more, on highlighting the dramatics and sensationalism. Since time in memorial, the various police departments have made very uncomfortable bed-fellows, when it comes to accurate reporting. Which is very sad really. A little co-op. between the media and police would work wonders I think. As it's been proved in the past.

o sung wu
I was in the conversation and asked a q about homos causing attacks.
You could answer that reasonably .

Hi there NICKNAMENICK...

There you are that wasn't so difficult for you, now was it? Your (abridged) question I believe was, '...a q about 'homos' causing attacks...'?

Not very often in my experience. From what I've seen personally, in that era, many of them gathered in Parks, usually around a Block of Public Toilets, where there were typically a group of 4 or 5, (I've seen up to 15 or more) younger men, loitering thereabouts. And it was because of this loitering, that encouraged many of these attacks.

In those days there existed an offence known as 'loitering with intent' (might now be repealed). Occasionally the Truck (uniform police) might cruise by and move them on, but after the truck left, they'd reappear. The problem arose, where a young girl might wish to use the facilities, and the boyfriend might be a big 'polooka', wanting to prove how tough he was, he might declare one or two these gay men on, purely because they looked homosexual and were 'hanging' around the Toilets.

More often than not he'd just leave with his girl, having proved to her how tough he was. Generally a short time later, he bring his mates along, and it would be on for young and old. While it's true the gay's had 'Blue's' among themselves usually over 'domestic matters'. It was their loitering; their appearance, the way they spoke, and the often superior 'position' they'd adopt, that (apparently) annoyed these 'meatheaded' local gangs. Attacks got progressively worse, where many gays were savagely bashed, a numbers 'shived', even a couple of murders, the circumstance of which, are well beyond my recall.

But worst of all, they were easy targets for the cowardly 'poofter' bashing gangs, that roamed the parks at night, seeking out these gay men. And remember the police have a duty, to 'keep there peace' and protect everyone, notwithstanding who they are. I trust NICKNAMENICK I've gone some way in answering your enquiry for you?

Seen some fine jackets down at our local 'Vinnies'. Not long ago in winter, "T" picked up a rather nice oil skin 3/4 coat, top quality, double stitched, plenty of pockets, hood included, perfect fit, near new 50 bucks. worth a few hundred in the shop. Thank god for the Catholics, what would I do without them, like whats her name, shop at Kmart. I don't discriminate, I also pick up the odd bargain at the Sallies outlet, and Red Cross store as well. Two way street, "T" also donates to them, and sends second hand and new clothing to Fiji, where its put to good use.

Foxy, this is of interest, the amount of clothing, particularly baby and children's items, that people donate which still have the shop tags on them, so many items that have never been warn. Some Australians just have too much money.

Paul,

I was in the Sallies in Armidale last week and a tall bloke that I was talking to had just bought two new pairs of R M Williams moleskin pants for a few dollars.
The pants were brand new but faded a bit on one side, we surmised that they'd been in a window display and not turned often enough.
Lots of clothing that is donated, with the tags still on, comes directly from shop owners.

o sung wu
"And it was because of this loitering, that encouraged many of these attacks. In those days there existed an offence known as 'loitering with intent' (might now be repealed). Occasionally the Truck (uniform police) might cruise by and move them on, but after the truck left, they'd reappear. "
So the police didn't enforce that but you say the technical offence "encouraged" attacks by civilians. Dark skin encourages attacks by whites ? Your comment is consistent with the news quotes posted about homo murders.

o sung wu,

Perhaps it was inferred by what you said, but the it wasn't the loitering per se of gays around public toilets that was problematic for authorities and caused so much public protest, it was the lewd behaviour and propositioning of the public using the conveniences, especially juveniles and the offensive sexual behaviour within. Top that off with the conveniences being littered with smeared faeces, toilet paper and the disgusting graffiti, vandalised.

History is constantly being re-written by activists and by a compliant media that seeks populism as a hedge against its own demise because of technology. However if one returns to the newspapers of the day, the paper records, one could be easily convinced that the most common source of abuse and harm to those homosexual men who hung around public toilets was the men themselves. Contrary to their buffed up image of love, rainbows and unicorns, gays do have a high incidence of substance abuse and bullying and violence among themselves.

One supposes that the gays have taken their behaviour to the gay bars they frequent and call their own. Where they themselves discourage 'straights' from using, lest the gay ambiance - take that as their indecent, lewd behaviour in public - might be complained about by other patrons and restricted.

The demand for SSM was based on claims that such self-harming behaviours, examples being substance abuse, risky sex involving random hook-ups (and bare-backing for thrills) and so on would cease. Now that SSM is about to be passed by the federal parliament there is no excuse, so gays need to move on and be held responsible for their own behaviour.

Skin colour has been mentioned here. It is a false analogy, as most analogies are and a diversion.

Dark skin encourages attacks like homos encourage attacks? Money encourages attacks.

" Victorian police chief Simon Overland has advised Indian students in Australia to keep a low profile and "try to look as poor as you can" to avoid attacks, . "Don't display your iPods, don't display your valuable watch, don't display your valuable jewellery. Try to look as poor as you can," Overland was quoted as saying by 'The Age'. Victorian Premier John Brumby defended his top cop, .

Rabbit poachers got 7 years transportation to New South Wales and encouraged game-keepers to shoot them to protect rabbits' heterosexual breeding.

Yes, I guess that the Indian government was playing hard ball political games over alleged racism that was proved to be an opportunist mugging in a park. The youthful offender's name was not disclosed but he is serving some serious time for it.

The story there is the disingenuous Indian government lying by omission to blackmail the Australian government into concessions. No 'racism' only greed. But a report though proved untrue, still lives in the mind of many. Heuristic flaws of humans that politicians and propagandists ruthlessly take advantage of.

NICK...You're trying way too hard to pin down precisely the point that you're trying to infer. Life my friend is neither black nor white, it's far more complicated then that.

Simply put, these gays were acting in ways that can only be described as prurient and salacious, and in so doing were loitering outside these public toilets. By preventing others, by dint of their numbers and this persistent loitering, from making use of those facilities. Thus setting themselves up for a decent flogging from some of the less forgiving gangs that roamed these parks at night, specially seeking out these groups of 'queers and poofters'. Leaving the poor ol' coppers to again act as the referee's.

You should also know, most police of that era, had very little truck for these people, mainly because it kept them from properly managing their own patrol districts. Moreover most police were pretty disgusted with the aberrant and deviant activities of these 'queers' particularly committing an act of sodomy in a public toilet where others might be confronted.

And in conclusion - As a copper I'm sworn to protect the safety and well being of everyone, including homosexuals. I've no entitlement to make any distinctions whatsoever. However personally, I absolutely abhor the act of sodomy, I find the practice utterly disgusting. However, our very wise and erudite lawmakers, have seen fit to disagree, and have repealed the offence. Lookout some species of animal - for you're next on the list of creatures to be prayed upon? If you reckon I'm joking NICK, just research some of those precious Newspapers of yours?

Yes leoj there was one offender.or two.

".In the year 2007-2008, 1,447 Indians had been victims of crime including assaults and robberies in the state of Victoria in Australia. In June 2009, the Victoria Police Chief Commissioner, Simon Overland, stated that some of the crimes were racist in nature, and others were opportunistic. _ Reuters ".

Rabbit poachers got off light , they encouraged mobs to hang and burn them . Abbott and his sister encourage a punch-up. All Greens do .
Everyone could do with a smack around the head . And animals.Rabbits.

Hi there LEOJ...

I'm sorry I should've read your comments earlier, before I responded to our mate NICKNAMENICK. Actually you put it far better than I could. Though I didn't go into the specifics of the condition these people left these toilets, it all played an integral part of the overall scene nevertheless?

Since I've retired I've not noticed whether these practices still persist? They shouldn't be, given how wide spread homosexuality has now become? In fact I think us 'straights' are now in the minority, and it's us that needs to hideout lest were discovered? Whereas, they 'came out' as it were, I suspect we should 'go in'? That would be the bloody day that I'd ever have to 'hideout' from....best I leave it at that I suspect? Times are a' changing eh? Thanks LEOJ, well stated.

nicknamenick,

Odd how the story suddenly changes when India gets what it wants,

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-04-07/india-no-longer-fears-students-at-risk-of-racial-attacks/8424124

BTW., why do you shy away from acknowledging the many police reports and articles in 'The Age', 'The Herald Sun' and other media outlets that attribute the many attacks on ALL students, not just Indian or ethnic, to the Apex gang of Sudanese youth and later to the Islander and middle eastern gangs?

Why go to extreme lengths to skirt around that, as the police Commissioner and politicians tried to do, to cover up the existence of organised gangs and the links between criminal gangs and immigration, in this case 'asylum seeker refugees'? See here,

http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/the-gangs-of-victoria-police-launch-new-squad-to-catch-young-thugs-20170511-gw2a9x.html

o sung wu,
You (speaking generally) wouldn't know what was hanging around the toilets and bars. Most would have crawled out from under a rock somewhere, predatory against all comers.

The concurrent push to lower the age of consent or even do away with it, is concerning too.

With denser populations in cities, proliferation of cars, mobile phones and the internet the nasty types are far more difficult to monitor and deter and they know that. IMHO, what is desperately needed are some youthful looking police in plainclothes to merge with students as they wander from schools to shopping centres and to transport.

Not drawing the bow at all homosexuals of course, but marginality/deviance can attract some fringe types and criminal.

The point here is :
1) homos were murdered in generous volumes for being annoying .
2) it was their own stupid fault they cliff-jumped.
3) Victorian police chief Simon Overland advised Indian students "don't display your valuable jewellery. Try to look as poor as you can," '. Victorian Premier John Brumby defended his top cop, .
4) it was their own stupid fault they were assaulted and battered ,
stabbed and burnt .
5) it's your own stupid fault if you buy a new car and it's trashed.
6) Abbott's sister had a good jacket on , her stupid fault .

//The concurrent push to lower the age of consent or even do away with it, is concerning too.//

What?

Nobody wants to abolish the age of consent, dude. Abolishing the age consent is equal to legalising paedophilia. I realise that some of you no voters believe that society has now completely gone to the dogs, but even evil scum in high security prisons reserve a special loathing for rock-spiders.

Nobody likes child rapists except other child rapists... and as pacifistic as I am, I would happily strangle each one of them to death.

This is also the first I've heard about lowering the age of consent... I smell a rat.

// IMHO, what is desperately needed are some youthful looking police in plainclothes to merge with students//

Oh... it's a piss-take :)

Nice one, leoj.

leoj,

Full steam ahead again for back door immigration for Indian students doing useless courses, then.

Hi again LEOJ...

Lowering the age of consent; well they're just asking for trouble in my opinion. Just how far do govt's wish to push, all this sexual freedom? Lets get it all out on the table, and allow the population as a whole, to have a decent look at what's proposed by these 'progressive' politicians. I don't know your politics or anyone else for that matter, but you've got to wonder at some of these sexually weird people, who're already occupying a Senate seat?

Are we witnessing the last vestiges of morality, and decency in our society, being slowly legislated away, by these filthy sexual predators? You really gotta wonder?

I hold great fears for our children and their children growing up, and being 'educated' in these 'safe schools' which seem to encourage the kids to experiment with their own sexual proclivities thus further confounding and bewildering them? Teachers are there to educate children in the basic lessons like 'reading writing & arithmetic. Not playing sexual discovery with them. It would appear to me prima facie; that some of these so called school teachers, are nothing more than demented sexual deviants, the dirty bastards, and shouldn't be allowed within a bulls roar of a child! How many of you reckon I've got it wrong?

Yes they should teach Australian values with the age of consent for whacking homos and Indians lowered to 11 and age for harassing decent MPs raised to 55 or 70 .

The euthanasia bills are having problems . This can be solved by specifying that homos can be assisted in this way . Indian law arranged for a wife to die with her husband and may be compulsory in rainbow alliances.