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The regressives have always hated decency. Their Christophobic natures cant help but to spit out hatred

Dear AJ Phillips,

Can I say that is quite well put.

I have some Evangelist Christians as in-laws and my take has been to compare the attitudes toward slavery and those of SSM. I would make the point that there are many scriptures commanding slaves to have obedience to the slave owner as they do Christ;

Ephesians 6:5 Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ.
Colossians 3:22 Slaves, obey your earthly masters in everything; and do it, not only when their eye is on you and to curry their favor, but with sincerity of heart and reverence for the Lord.
1 Peter 2:18 Slaves, in reverent fear of God submit yourselves to your masters, not only to those who are good and considerate, but also to those who are harsh.
1 Timothy 6:1-2 All who are under the yoke of slavery should regard their own masters as deserving of the highest respect, so that the name of God and our teaching may not be discredited.
1 Corinthians 7:21 Were you a slave when you were called? Do not let that trouble you; but even if a chance of liberty should come, choose rather to make good use of your servitude.

These were scriptures quoted from the pulpits in the South defending slavery before the Civil War.

I make the point that society now rightly finds slavery an abhorrent and disgusting evil. We would of course not think of telling a slave to treat the slaveowner with respect of the kind they afford Christ. Nor would we tell him to remain a slave even if freedom presents itself. This is human morality imposing itself over practice that God would seem to fully condone. I made the argument that this is the same as SSM. There will come a time where we will be rather bemused it ever used to happen.

"The regressives have always hated decency" I'll have to agree with you there runner. My take on recognition as the elitists conservatives (regressives) thought it should be applied. Give the blacks this recognition they think they deserve, as long as they don't step out of line, and keep in their place. Shock, horror, the upperty blacks are demanding more that a bit of la-de-da tokenism, which is all the elitists were willing to concede in the first place. How dare they, step out of line like this! Next thing you know they will want equality with the good white folk. The motto should be "Boy! Know your place" and stay there.

//The SSM camp is mentally ill. Suggesting that anyone against SSM is on a par with racism and homophobia.//

How could anybody think that you're not homophobic when you make comments like these:

//these vermin will be slithering around under the nearest rocks celebrating there sick victory.//

//I beg the govt to reject these sick animals//

//It is just like living in hell, and that's what these sicko's are going to push on us.//

That last one isn't just staggeringly homophobic, it's also wildly innacurate: SSM will not be pushed on anybody, and will be every bit as voluntarily as opposite sex marriage.

//Yes. Insanity is probably part of it//

Really? Over 60% of the Australian population are mentally ill just because you don't agree with them?

Seems like an odd diagnostic criterion. Even crazy, one might say.

Well, for those like myself who are opposed to ssm, the truth is the powers to be can impose as many laws as they like, but the people don't have to recognise them and for me that will be my saving grace. Under no circumstances will I accept that a marriage between two queers (should that be the end result) will be the same as a marriage between a man and a woman.

That being said, this will plague ss couples for the rest of their lives and the lives of the queers to follow because acceptance of being considered equal is what they are after, rather than just having the right to marry.

As for changing society, this will have an impact on many including parents of kids having gay love education forced upon their children despite their objection to same. More freedoms eroded.

Sorry, but for me there will never be any such thing as equality in marriage when comparing heterosexual couples to queer couples. So for those who stand for the 'No Vote' just remember, the mind is a powerful tool.

Butch, do you refuse service in your shop to "queers", do you display a sign to that effect, or is their money as good as everyone else's.

No law is going to change your bigoted attitude, but laws will stop you and others from openly discriminating against "queers" who's lifestyle is not affecting you at all, but whose lifestyle you don't agree with.

At least all Christians are not bigoted homophobes. My Mormon niece who is non judgmental on SSM, told uncle, gay people have the right to live without others judging them. I said that's a fair attitude.