Pauline made the most sensible comments I have ever heard on the
subject of the schooling of kids with handicaps.
Having seen this problem up close I think it is absolutely stupid
the way the media and other politicians attacked her.
They acted in a disgraceful way to make political points against her.
The points they made were wrong or invented.
Fancy even using handicapped children to make political points !
The Greens were the most offensive.

Aaaarrrggghhh !

Obviously children suffering Autism need special attention to be educated.

Obviously curriculum teachers in general are not trained to provide special attention for autism cases while at the same time teaching other students.

The ABC especially and other mainstream media are adept at selecting an issue and spinning comment from selected viewpoints into a political attack to suit their political agenda.

The Australian ABC is riddled with bias and deceit, putting one sided views in 'news' and 'current affairs'.

Yes there are many good people at the ABC but their effort seems often stifled or suppressed by editorial management.

For example, ABC news is presently suppressing insight and danger of nutrient pollution damaging ocean ecosystems, including and involving surface current that flows to New Zealand and/or the Great Barrier Reef depending on seasonal wind direction.

There has been no investigative and news reporting follow up about danger of too many fish farms in one area, while wildlife green groups are paid money for approval or somehow agree with each other to a code of silence.
http://www.abc.net.au/4corners/stories/2016/10/31/4564542.htm

Just look at ABC bias in the on and on mantra promoting Co2 reduction while the petition by 30,000 disagreeing named scientists and their views are not duly investigated and reported.
http://www.petitionproject.org/

The ABC should harness editorial space to report Autistic children do have varied special needs and do require special care in education by especially trained teachers.

There are two things to blame here.

1 Politically correctness gone mad, they don't want to admit there is a problem.

2 Lets get Pauline Hanson at any cost

Spot on, Phillip S.

It was selective understanding on what Pauline said.
When she used the words "these people" the politicians had the
opportunity to take two meanings; either the children or the activists.
They chose the children. Why ? Because it gave them a political hammer.
In fact if you take it in context you would realise that she could
only have meant the activists.
When I heard it I understood what was meant.
Pauline will I hope learn the lesson from this, assume the politicians
that oppose her are stupid as indeed they are and spell it out in great detail.

One size does not fit all, with a very wide range of autism it would not only be impossible to send these kids to special school. It is obvious that you have never witnessed children with a high degree of autism or seen the special schools.
These schools are more like prisons than schools, where it can take months to get a kid to ride a bike unassisted. Locked gates and some can not be in groups.
The kids that go to main stream school are so unaffected by their diagnoses that they do not even know they have it.

"Autism is a spectrum and there are many children with autism who ... you wouldn't even know they had autism in the mainstream classroom, through to kids where it's obvious."
She said parents were often alarmed to see their child sitting next to a child with autism in the classroom.
"But the longitudinal data is such that it is advantageous for their own child academically to be alongside that child as well as for the child who has a disability to be sitting in a mainstream classroom," she said.
"There's a lot of research to show that it is beneficial for children with autism to be educated alongside their mainstream peers in terms of the social benefits of understanding difference and accepting that from a very young age.
"There's no evidence that education in anywhere other than a mainstream classroom is going to be good or better for that child."

Like Trump, as rough as Pauline is makes the 'elites' on the abc look very very irrational.

Why are we having this discussion again? It has already been shown on the other thread that Hanson's comments were somewhat ignorant. Yes, the reaction was a little over the top, but Hanson invites some of this herself with a litany of ignorant remarks and an inarticulate manner of speaking which has the unfortunate effect of making everything she says sound that little bit more offensive than what was originally intended.

If they are not promoting sensationalist commentary they feel they are left out.
This mob need to get a life of their own instead inciting propaganda.
Seperate the borderline kids from undiagnosed kids and schools will be empty.
Those comments of Hanson are off the planet just like most of her sayings.
It shows her political immaturity, ill advised or no advice at all

doog Please advise why we should listen to you rather than the teachers
Quote "It shows her political immaturity"
as opposed to, It shows your post immaturity

http://au.news.yahoo.com/a/36101055/teachers-back-pauline-hansons-call-to-segregate-autistic-students/#page1

'Pauline's right': Teachers agree autistic students should be segregated from classes

Hanson dropped a bombshell in parliament this week when she said autisitc students were holding other students back in the classroom and needed to be given attention in separate classes.

While the outspoken One Nation senator faced immediate criticism for the statement, Sunrise host David Koch said a lot of teachers had sided with Hanson, claiming there wasn't enough funding to integrate disabled children into mainstream classrooms.

"Whenever Pauline says anything it's like using a sledgehammer, and we all react against her because we all want inclusion in our schools," Koch told education minister Simon Birmingham on Friday morning.

"But a lot of teachers emailed us and said 'Pauline is right, because we don't have the funding and we don't have the teachers aides to be able to integrate kids with disabilities into the classroom, we want more funding'."

More funding push, what a heap of crap. That is not the way to go about more funding.
Hanson needs to pull her nose out of the upper reaches and be realistic. She wants segregation. What next after borderline autistic kids, that disruptive little kid in the corner over there. Do we end up with schools for every class of kids.
She is not a politicians boot lace. Shooting from the hip just like that other bloke. It must be a far right thing.
Bazz reckons that is common sense. God help us.

Doog, I have two autistic grandsons and 30 years of paediatric nursing so I do have some experience in this area.
Pauline is not wrong, albeit she could have been a little more sensitive with her presentation.
Firstly, she wasn't just referring to kids with autism, she was meaning all disabilities. As yes, some can be integrated into mainstream with a bit of classroom help, but many many kids struggle and find school incredibly traumatic.
Even those who aren't disruptive still require a lot of the teachers time, plus which, no manner of extra classroom help is going to turn classrooms into quiet, dimly lit, highly structured places that many autistic kids prefer.
Some, like my oldest grandson, who is high IQ, can sit quietly in class, absorbing nothing because they are too busy trying to keep emotionally calm, then go have a meltdown at home that lasts for hours. These kids hate school! Many end up being homeschooled.
I asked my now adult grandson about this. His response was that he would have loved a very small, quiet class with a few other nerds like himself, with the opportunity to socialise during non core subjects like sports and art and music.
As it was, despite being incredibly bright he totally failed school and only managed to stay till the end of year 12 because he went into the low IQ disability class and spent his last year building gardens and doing cooking.
Thankfully he has found a workplace that suits his needs and is really happy now.
But he suffered dreadfully for years and I wouldn't wish that in any child.

Despicable hag. Only ever attacking the weakest and those unable to fight back.

Milk,

'Bear of Little Brain', show us where Hanson attacked anyone, let alone autistic children, who she believes are as entitled to an education as much as any child.

As Pauline was relating the views of her constituants to Parliament I wonder how many other politicians have had the same views expressed to them by parents and why they have not seen fit to inform Parliament. It seems an ideal time when education and funding is being debated.

I suggest it is because other politicians are not as forthright or as honest as Pauline, they may have told the concerned parents they would raise the issue but, when the opportunity was there, they squibbed it. Have no doubt that Pauline is not the only politician to have heard these concerns from parents and teachers.

Pauline has shown she is not afraid to voice the parents views on their behalf. We need more politicians like her that will speak the truth, whether some like it or not.

mikk - It is with great pleasure I award you A - Hole of the week award for your above comments, you have managed to break a record as no one even came close to your winning this award.

To quote you. "Despicable hag. Only ever attacking the weakest and those unable to fight back."

You will be able to collect your award next time you go to the WC.

"Despicable hag. Only ever attacking the weakest and those unable to fight back.
Posted by mikk, Saturday, 24 June 2017 11:39:10 AM"

Good grief! what a sad, sexist, un-interesting and totally non-intelligent remark. Not to mention rude and stupid.

I have a low level autistic grandson, it was first noticed when he was 7 and only ever 'parallel' played which meant he played alongside other kids and copied what they were doing, but never with them. He was also nowhere near keeping up with even the lower grade kids, there were concepts he just didn't grasp.

They had special schools back then and he ended up going there..he's 24 now and not long finished his apprenticeship as a cement renderer and moved out with his girlfriend 3 months ago. He has plenty of mates, is a very quiet but happy young man, plays footy, surfs and parallel plays no longer. I can only put this down to the special attention he received at his school..+ of course his great parents, his 2 older brothers that watched and protected him like hawks and his grandparents on both sides.

One interesting fact is that he was a twin but his twin died at birth as his lungs just weren't developed properly.

This is going to sound awful but here goes.

We had tickets for a matinee session to see 'Wicked' a few years back and behind us were seated about a dozen down syndrome teenagers. To say they were noisy and disruptive during the whole show is putting it mildy..to the extent a man at the end of our row eventually turned around and snarled at the two carers to do their damn jobs and shut them up.
Several people in our row said loudly 'hear hear'. For the next 10 minutes all we could hear was the carers going 'shhhh' and the teenagers going 'shhhh' as well! it was worse than before!

The concert was totally spoilt for us and we just left. I never did get to see the show properly.