Dear ttbn,

I stand by my posting record.

The art of reasoned, intelligent argument is a
skill not easily acquired. I have always tried
to argue in a logical manner because I believe that
sound reasoning will conquer unreasonable generalisations
every time. Nobody likes or supports an abusive,
illogical or weak debater.

I like to think that I have been a positive
influence on this forum. That's all one can try to do.

Having read the Finkel report I can see why conservatives are so annoyed with it.

The 3 major priorities in this report are:
1 - Meeting the Paris accord emission targets
2 - System reliability
3 - Price of power to the consumers.

The reality is that meeting priorities No 1 & 2 cost a bomb, power prices will rocket. While Finkel's management plan will supposedly do this at near the lowest cost, the savings are relative to some other method and not compared to today's prices unless of course the government stumps up for the full $900bn and does not simply stick it to the consumers. One thing it does do is highlight the real cost of renewable power once one adds in the energy storage and new reticulation costs which put the cost of new high efficiency coal generation in the shade.

It also ignores the obvious solution of nuclear power, which with $300bn could build sufficient reactors and reprocessing facilities to supply nearly all of Australia's power until 2100.

The Conservatives do not like the Finkel report because Abbott can not play the game. Nuclear is a no brainer.
Who is our PM is it Turnbull or Abbott, He should never have been assisted in winning his seat at the DD election.
Finkel has come up with a master plan, which labor would follow.
Turnbull should act in Australias best interests and call an election.
The degree of disruption is killing this country and all because of a mob of radicals that are in the wrong political party. lets sort this out now.

'lets sort this out now.'

easy Doog. We should follow Trump's example and withdraw from the Paris farce. A few sackings (drain the swamp) would be great. Slash abc funding by 75%, get rid of the hopelessly political and deceitful human rights commission, stop sexualising kids in the name of ' safe' schools and run proper science programs to re educate all those totally dumbed down to believe that humans are able to manipulate the weather. Australia's economy, environment and propserity would increase very quickly. I would even suggest you get free education to teach you to think.

SM, I read up on Finkle he has electrical engineering qualifications
and has been an advocate for nuclear power for a long time.
His commission probably stated no nuclear.
I have seen two costs given $90 bln and $900 bln.
Such a difference is remarkable. Which is right ?

It appears from everything I have read/heard the whole project is
to be backed up in the long term by batteries.
If that is true I can understand the $900 billion.
Where will that money come from ?
More borrowings ?

Runner you have been led down the garden path. Trump is not a diplomatic man he is more like a bull at a gate type of person. The sooner he goes the better for the world and all of its residence.
Climate change is a very real problem, and CO 2 is the perpetrator.
There is no argument the science was settled years ago.

Bazz Finkel has a real solution and Morrison has a solution for cash you don't count it.
Any figures at the moment would be a guess. I wonder if they calculated the EOFY component.
The Conservatives started fighting before Finkel handed it over. We are in dire need of policy direction, and so does business. The NBN is a flop, that little bit of copper wire at the end is stupid. We have a mishmash of systems that are going to cause big alterations to be made. Abbott and Turnbull are wiskids at nothing