The Islamic Council of Victoria wants the public to fund 'safe spaces' for young Muslims, in the face of Muslim terror attacks on the very same Australian public.

What a joke! How sick can a group of people be?

Why can't they have so called "safe places" within
their own Community Halls or Mosques?
Nobody would bother them there and they can rant
all they like.

The Muslim Communities have to accept some responsibility
for their young people.

cont'd ...

The Islamic Council is only inviting negative reactions
from the Australian mainstream with such requests.
All other ethnic communities have their own community
centres where their family members can attend and if
necessary have meetings and vent their spleens.

I have to stop reading all the stuff in the news re the muslims. My disgust and anger can spiral out of control and I end up hating everyone from the useless governments, to the fools that think this totally weird way of life called islam is ok, and most of all the muslims themselves for being so damn stupid as to believe the utter make believe crap they go on about.

Right on, Foxy.

moonshine,

You must keep taking notice, and take your concerns right up to politicians and anyone who will listen - even those who don't listen need to know that you are onto them.

Why is the Islamic community not speaking out strongly and often publicly condemning the cowardly and barbaric atrocities their people and religion are committing?

JF Aus,

Could it be because they approve of and support terrorism in the name of their 'religion'? It is white apologists who keep saying that most Muslims are peaceful, and the very few Muslims who say anything about anything at all cannot be believed because of 'taqiyya'.

Have you not noticed that the so-called Grand Mufiti of Australia always blames we infidels for Muslim terrorsism? Did you miss President Erdogan of Turkey hotly denying that there is a 'moderate' Muslim. He is right, of course, and honest, in this case.

Immigration is part of the longed-for global Caliphate, so why would anyone be surprised that Muslims don't speak out against the jihadists.

Muslims state that infidels will be conquered “by their own hand”, and that is certainly happening in the West. Our most dangerous enemies are politicians who invited Muslims to our shores; it is the Turnbulls and Shortens, acting as our “own hand” who are responsible for a Muslim presence where there should never have been one.

I think mainstream media editorial level that run's who is in government and who the opposition is.
Therefore is is surely mainstream media that more often than not actually dictates policy.

I wonder if editors have considered their own wife or Turnbull's wife, or Shorten's mother in law wearing a Burqa.

Islam is political ideology disguised as a religion, with no interest in integration.

How about the Saudi Arabian soccer team refusing to observe a minute's silence in memory of the London Bridge terror victims?

The SA government's apology afterwards is meaningless.

Considering the amount of money put into mosques and schools by
Saudi Arabia it is surprising they have not used their embezzling
skills to fund their "safe spaces".
They demonstrated those skills on the Islamic school funds supplied
by the Australian Government.
What has to be understood is the Koran excuses anything illegal that
they do to unbelievers.

Of course it would be nice if they could supply the rest of us with safe places.

Actually I don't think it would be such a bad idea, to provide them all with a safe place. Obviously it would need to be publicly funded, very safe as stated, and not create a backlash from the community at large.

I'm not aware of any desired sites, yet to be identified by their leadership, but somewhere in the Western Suburbs of Sydney would probably suit their needs. As it happens I know of one such facility currently unoccupied, and structurally would most likely appeal to them, as well as meet all their needs, certainly from an architectural point of view. I'm sure long term accommodation could be arranged, with facility capable of accommodating up to four or five hundred young Muslims at a time.

The actual locality is in well known O'Connell Street, North Parramatta, hitherto known as; 'the Parramatta Maximum Security Gaol'. A fine cluster of structures, erected in the mid-1840's capable of billeting any number of aspiring young (wannebe) terrorists.

The most appealing component of the entire exercise, they would confronted with a very slick 'de-radicalizing programme' for these young wannebe's, that would undoubtedly encourage them to modify their hair-brained notions of Islam. And to ensure compliance, the facility has the necessary wherewithal, and the staff, to make sure they 'get with the programme' as it were

Ahh yes O Sung Wu, a good suggestion.
If they graduate to the skills and knowledge approved by the Mullahs,
Immans etc they could then be sent to the Super Mosque University at Goulburn !

Unfortunately, we all measure one measure, and not everyone is bad.

Hello all. I'm new here. Is this a right wing forum?

ttbn, the silence thing did seem rude however at the same time the wording I heard for the silence was in my view thoughtless given how many people have been killed in terror attacks in non-western countries over the last few weeks.

I'd heard of a small number of recent attacks worthy of mention if we are holding a minute of silence around the topic of victims of terror. A search turned up a Wikipedia list that puts a little perspective around why just mentioning London at an international Sporting event is in poor taste

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents_in_June_2017

R0ber

ajae whilst some who are a little more used to forums where the moderators shut down dissenting views have called it a right wing forum at times in my view that's not the case.

One of it's appeals is that it's not an echo chamber and provided the rules are followed I've never seen sign of political censorship. There is opportunity to explore idea with people with different views.

Robust discussion almost always, unnecessary rudeness frequently but also times where there are plenty of signs of care across political divides when someone is having a tough time. People who may be fierce combatants on one topic in strong agreement on others.

R0bert

'evening to you BAZZ...

You may well be right, when you say some of these Mullahs may indeed refer their more gifted terrorists graduates, to the 'Goulburn Super Mosque'. It's my further understanding it's essentially for post-graduate training in advanced, 'Urban Terrorism' studies; but only for those who possess an IQ of 2% above that of domestic plant life, will be eligible. Indeed a high entry standard, for sure.

AJAE to answer your inquiry; this Forum is dedicated to all people who wish to express an opinion on everyday life. If this is you, I'd like to bid you a very warm welcome

Hi AJAE, I'm new as well,...I did look for a 'hello I'm new' sort of pinned post but couldn't find one so just butted in.

I agree with O Sung Wu's solution, though I would prefer to go a step further and to quote an old saying 'go back to where you came from'.

I would like someone to point out to me why we are condoning a fake religion that condones child marriages.....over 200 being looked at in Sydney and Melbourne I read, hard to prove as the child doesn't speak out and the marriages are only 'registered' in the mosque and not on any government register.

Female genital mutilation...Both Melbourne and Sydney Royal Hospitals have a special unit to fix up botched FGM's..disgusting that my tax dollars even need to go there!

The 4 wives rubbish, with each wife in a separate commission house with the male choosing which one to visit that day. ACA followed a bloke around awhile ago and that's what he was doing, he was on the dole so didn't have to pay child support for the 5 kids he had spread around the 4 wives, though he was caught out working for cash in his uncles fruit barn!

I won't even bother with the killings around the world, especially the one off killings that don't even make the news half the time, like the muslim that chopped the head of a female co-worker in some shop in America, saying it was for Allah..there are dozens of that type that aren't really even counted.

They laugh at us, and we know it, yet allow it. WE are the one's that need safe places!

ajae This is a right wing nutters forum, so watch out for loose cannons and ak 47 slugs.

Multiculturalism has been an unmitigated disaster - people coming from the hell-holes of the Middle East and Asia, bringing with them Islam, which is a political ideology disguised as a religion,with no interest in integration. Our politicians are a disgrace for allowing - indeed encouraging - it.

Why do Muslims want safe spaces? If they truly believe in their religion they would be prepared to die for it if necessary. This is what Jihadists are prepared to do.

Stand up for your faith be prepared to suffer and die in the name of Allah. Perhaps Islam does not mean that much to you if you want the taxpayer to give you nice safe places where you can go every time something happens that you do not like.

How do we know that such places will not be abused and become breeding grounds for radicalisation? All you have to do is say you are Muslim and someone is doing something you don't like.

Tell your story to the police like the rest of us have to.

Hi there MOONSHINE...

I'm very sorry I did indeed neglect to bid you a warm welcome to this august Forum of Graham's, as would many other members herein, bid you a great welcome as well.

To the Topic; I think most ordinary folk would be appalled and utterly nauseated at the barbaric behaviour of some of these 'God fearing' Muslims. With their medieval and dark-age attitudes to all humanity who choose to pursue religions and lifestyles, other than Islam.

Sadly I can't see things in this country changing too much for the better, under PM TURNBULL'S aegis. This treacherous individual shouldn't even be in politics let alone our PM. I put it down to the man's personal hubris, coupled with his 'bugger the country' mantra. While his administration is paralyzed with incertitude, coupled with numerous moments of indecision by his Ministers, and habitual episodes of blundering by the entire Coalition. I've been a conservative all my life (I'm nearly eighty now) Mr TURNBULL lacks the probity and character to be a leader, and is by far, the worst member of the Liberal Party, since it was established all those years ago, by Robert MENZIES.

All the while MOONSHINE, our country, our culture and way of life is slowly capitulating and transforming to a place that I'm no longer able to recognise, as a result of this ever increasing malevolence by these villainous Islamic extremists.

OSW, the ADF has a wonderful 'de~radicalisation' programme being implemented in several countries, called: '5.56mm, .50 cal & HE' it has been a great success. But more is the pity some of those who have escaped their prescibed dosages in Syria, Pakistan, Iraq & Afghanistan are currently en route to Australia's shores via people smugglers to peddle their curious wares in times to come. We are not far away from the time in history where the visitation of those horrors of their twisted theology occurs, sad to say. As the chooks are coming home to roost re: the policies of lame brained politicians, special interest 'Land Rights for Left Handed Harp Seals' groups etc, we have nought to blame but ourselves for electing these oxygen thieves. The home grown exponents of this radicalisation will unfortunately, be much harder to root out and defuse, due to the nature of 'lone wolf' style attacks.

I say if Muslim youth want to gripe, let them join OLF.

Five days after Manchester, 29 Christians in Egypt died when terrorists attacked their bus. Forty-two others were seriously injured and the assassins got away.  That story vanished in less than 48 hours.  No colour photos.  No interviews with authorities. No tragic details.
Here’s what you probably never heard.  The Christian group of parents, grandparents, and children were traveling in two buses to pray at a monastery. Their vehicles were stopped by terrorists outside the town of Minya.  After the buses were surrounded by killers, passengers on one of the buses were forced to exit the bus one by one.  As each reached the door to face masked gunmen, they were asked, “Are you Muslim?” None of them were. Each was then given a chance to renounce Jesus Christ and convert to Islam.
As each passenger confessed Christ and refused to convert, he was dragged a few feet away to be killed by either a shot in the head or a slit throat.  One at a time, nineteen adults, and ten children were ordered to become Muslims or die.  One by one they were instantly murdered.  The criminals then fired on the group in the second bus, injuring 42, before speeding away to safety.

The Brilliant Al Grasby introduced Multiculturalism to Australia as an open door policy to practise their culture and values.

o sung wu,

Very nice summary of Turnbull the Tit and what's left of the Coalition.

Josephus,

Grassby would still be in jail now if he hadn't died to escape prosecution.

Hi there ALBIE MANTON IN DARWIN...

How silly of me to forget the ADF's miracle cure for such intractable afflictions. I understand the intrepid Dr.CLAYMORE M18A1 has retired and handed over his practice to the HE and AN60 group now?

Actually I was half listening to the radio the other evening, and they were in the process of interviewing some lady academic, who was waxing lyrically about 'Daesh's' new policy of intensifying their current terrorism infiltration strategy, in Western Nations. And she further avowed, quite without any reservation whatsoever, that we (the West) were undoubtedly at war. Moreover any Western leader who was still in any doubt, was either utterly puerile or just plain ignorant concerning the recent escalation and frequency of Islamic terrorist activities, not to recognise that important distinction.

No longer is it an intense criminal interdiction involving complex police operations? No way, we're now in a state of War, with the full import of the word!

It's really quite a worry Albie, when one must consider the safety and overall welfare of our grandchildren, as well as their children too? Thanks mate, and stay well.

ajae'
This forum is neither right or left.
It is simply a sounding board for government listening posts that assess public opinion and possible dissent.
Its call "Big Brother"
George Orwell mentioned it in '1984'.

moonshine , im with you there. A few years back I hardly knew what a Muslim was, now I am getting to the stage where I hate them all and that is just not right.

We need to set some serious laws for offenders in this country, starting with deportation, put them on a plane with a 'return to sender' note.

I suppose we should think ourselves lucky that we're not fully under their sharia laws as yet, although our freedom of speech is definitely being curtailed, I have heard of Australian's losing their jobs because of fakebook rants, in fact I know a young lady that was sacked from her mining job because she was in on a convo about an apparently useless co-worker.

Losing your job is not quite in the same category as losing your life though. Poor sod! oh well, just another muslim country with their insane muslim laws I suppose. Where is the United Nations on this I wonder.

"Blasphemy is a highly sensitive topic in Muslim-majority Pakistan, where insulting the Prophet Mohammad is a capital crime for which dozens are sitting on death row. Even mere accusations are enough to spark mass uproar and mob justice."http://www.smh.com.au/world/pakistan-man-sentenced-to-death-for-blasphemy-on-facebook-20170611-gwp2hb.html

three young muslim 'girls' attacked and cut a British girl on the weekend. As usual the bbc left out the fact that they cried out they were doing it for allah. The leftist press are nothing but traitors full of deceit.

Hi there TTBN...

Thank you my friend, nevertheless the target of my annoyance is our indomitable PM. Though he's unaffected by anything that might be seen as censure for his bungling administration or lack of leadership. He's completely insulated from public opinion or derision, in fact the man is immune from everything so it would seem.

He has no need of worrying about normality, issues that deleteriously impact upon us all. The cost of fuel or of energy, consumables at the Supermarket...? He doesn't need to worry about a thing? Nor does Lucy his wife. The Lodge is centrally heated, paid for by the taxpayer, his government vehicle is furnished gratis, again at taxpayer's expense. As is the fuel, there's no Rego. nor Insurance, we the taxpayer, we pick-up all those expenses?

Yet he asks the little bloke in the working Western Suburbs of Sydney, to pay more 'n more, and even more? Is it fair do you think. We see politicians regularly sup on the taxpayers teat, as is their right apparently? I agree, we shouldn't waste resources by constructing a purpose built terrorist prison...? Instead we should build a very secure politicians prison, especially dedicated to our large population of corrupt politicians. And how large should we
construct it? Very large indeed, as it will soon be filled to capacity?

Sorry folks, I'm an old man and I'm merely engaging in another one of my more pleasurable 'reverie's', about a long forgotten past, and in a once ideal time; is all?

Yes OSW, if you sit down the road at night observing 'The Lodge' through night vision googles you'll burn out the image intensifier unit with the amount of lights they leave on. I'd hate to be paying the power bill there ! If you use thermal imaging from any of the balconies in units overlooking Mal & Lucy's, the pictures are much better. It is said that if the world could ever manage to convert the electrical needs of just lights alone to "renewable sources" we could cut our consumption by one third globally. Perhaps Herr Fuhrer could show the way and make a statement by doing this ?

At the time it was signed, immigration minister Scott Morrison announced that Australia would provide Cambodia with $40 million over four years “to support various overseas aid development projects”, in addition to the approximately $79 million that it was providing in aid to Cambodia.
In October 2015, Michael Pezzullo, the Secretary of the Department of Immigration and Border Protection clarified that Australia was providing $40 million “in development assistance – not directly related to the resettlement per se”, as well as $15 million for the overall resettlement program that would be “pay on performance”.
The agreement does not mention these specific dollar amounts, or the division between development assistance and resettlement funding. Instead it lists specific costs that Australia has agreed to cover (which constitute the majority of the costs associated with relocation and settlement), including:
• the costs of travel of Cambodian officials to Nauru to provide information to refugees who may be relocated;
• the costs of travel of refugees to Cambodia;
• the costs associated with the temporary accommodation of refugees upon arrival in Cambodia, including the costs of transporting refugees from the airport, the temporary accommodation itself, daily meals, clothes, health services, translation services, security services and meeting the other basic needs of refugees in temporary accommodation;