Does anyone remember when sodomy was decriminalised and people started talking about the " slippery slope"?
" will never happen" said the gay lobby. "All we want is to not be seen as criminals and be able to live our lives in privacy without fear of being charged."
Well of course that was the start but naturally people are still denying it exists.
But funnily, a German ethics committee has ruled that consentual adult incest should be decriminalised saying "Criminal law is not the means to maintain a social taboo".
Whilst in Canada, some forms of bestiality have now been decriminalised.
If anyone really thinks that changing the definition of the word t marriage is not going to open the legal right to all forms of union, they are living in an alternate universe.

Because that's the way they're treated, phanto.

<<So why mention in the first place?>>

You're treating them like second-class citizens, too, for so long as you object to marriage equality with no good reason to.

<<There is no class of citizenship in Australia.>>

Not legally, no.

<<It is just a manipulative attempt to get people to feel sorry for them.>>

Or they could just be raising awareness. Why do you assume it's an attempt to manipulate?

<<SSM should be introduced because it is reasonable to do so and not out of sympathy.>>

Correct.

<<There is no logical reason to talk about both.>>

Yes, there is. Because both issues need to be addressed, and they both overlap.

<<How does this happen when we do not have classes of citizenship in this country?>>

I don't know. I guess some bigots just don't want same-sex couples getting married. You're in a better position to answer that than I am.

<<Where is the legislation which defines classes of citizenship?>>

No-one has claimed that any such legislation exists. This is a red herring of your own creation.

<<Why are they trying to dramatise the situation …>>

You are yet to demonstrate that they are.

<<Why would [homophobes] assume any difference after marriage?>>

No-one has suggested they would. We’re taking about two issues which overlap.

<<Why would you have a banner which states that love is love unless you were trying to gain some kind of sympathy?>>

To raise awareness.

<<What opponents of SSM think of homosexual love is irrelevant.>>

No, it's not irrelevant when we all share the same space.

<<Love is not the issue here – it is marriage… >>

Another false dichotomy that ignores overlap. The two go together like a horse and carriage.

<<... they need to present arguments for marriage and not for homosexual love.>>

They have been. You are yet to counter any of them.

<<It is perfectly illogical behaviour to try and win sympathy when you should be presenting arguments.>>

You are yet to demonstrate that sympathy is being sought, or how you ruled out awareness-raising as a possibility.

Big Nana, "If anyone really thinks that changing the definition of the word marriage is not going to open the legal right to all forms of union, they are living in an alternate universe"

But that would be so Hip! That is, among the 'Progressive' set who believe that the State should be replacing parents where raising children is concerned.

Multiple 'partners'? Soooo Liberating (with a capital 'L') for some!
Talking about Hip, tearful Medal of Freedom recipient Ellen DeGeneres, the icon of lesbians who like free gifts on shows and herself a celebrated virtuoso at playing a tune or two on 'ladys parts', will be able to realise an ambition and enjoy having different designer-model shag carpet available in each room ('to match her changing drapes', as she might flippantly amuse her enthusiastic TV fans).

That will solve this problem that might be vexing this adorable, 'evolved', 'Progressive' celebrity,

<Ellen Degeneres and Portia de Rossi sell Montecito home ahead of split

.. it seems Portia's alleged jealousy is the reason the couple are calling time on their eight-year relationship.

"Portia is convinced that Ellen manipulates her friendships with sexy movie stars to get under her skin. It works," the insider told OK!.

"It used to be Olivia Munn and Sofia Vergara that Ellen openly flirted with and now Ellen simply adores actress Kristen Bell, who she's said is a younger version of Portia.">

Of course while it is fun to prick the ballooning egos of gay activists who are on a power trip to make 'authority' bow to their bidding on SSM, there are powerful interests who are pulling the strings and for their own agenda, which is always totalitarian.

“<<So why mention in the first place?>>

You're treating them like second-class citizens, too, for so long as you object to marriage equality with no good reason to.”

You didn’t answer the question.

“Not legally, no.”

So why mention it at all if it cannot be legally righted by marriage?

“Or they could just be raising awareness”

Awareness of what?

“Yes, there is. Because both issues need to be addressed, and they both overlap.”

How do they overlap?

“I don't know. I guess some bigots just don't want same-sex couples getting married. You're in a better position to answer that than I am.”

You don’t know so you resort to labelling people and trying to insult me by inferring that I am a bigot.

“No-one has claimed that any such legislation exists. This is a red herring of your own creation.”

So how do we determine who is first class and who is second class?

“No-one has suggested they would. We’re taking about two issues which overlap.”

How do these two issues overlap? You are just making glib statements about overlaps without explanation.

“No, it's not irrelevant when we all share the same space”

We all share the same space but we can’t have different opinions about homosexual love? How does having different opinions about homosexual love negate SSM? You can negate homosexual love for many reasons but still agree with SSM. Legal marriage has nothing to with love.

“The two go together like a horse and carriage.”

Brilliant argument that one! You are scraping the bottom of the barrel now.

“You are yet to demonstrate that sympathy is being sought,”

You have yet to demonstrate that is not.

“you ruled out awareness-raising as a possibility.”

Awareness of what?

Big Nana,

The truth is that the legalisation of gay marriage
will lead to the legalisation of gay marriage.
Dire warnings of slippery slopes are scaremongering.
The countries that have so far legalised same
sex marriage have not crumbled yet. Ultimately the
argument of the slippery slope is hyperbolic nonsense
designed to instill confusion, fear, and mistrust of
gay people.

American attorneys are now having a field day, as SS persons seeking marriage functions at private wedding reception venues are being refused by the conscience of their owners.