It is my belief that the National disability Insurance Scheme is a deliberate and malicious act of age discrimination
and totally contradictory to the concepts and imports of the anti discrimination laws of this country.
Aged pensioners (65 years plus) have just as much, if not more, need to services provided by the NDIS as
do those under 65 years of age but the cut off point is age 65.
What this means is that some indigenous person or refugee who is unable to work, has never worked
and has never paid into the taxation pool is entitled to NDIS support (an electric mobility scooter or mechanical bed etc)
over and above some poor
bugger who has worked all his life,supported his community and family and paid his share of taxes only to fall on hard times.
I believe there needs to be a high court challenge to the NDIS based on age discrimination and I am speaking
to my solicitors right now.
What does OLO have to say?

NDIS should never have been passed, it is a potential bottomless pit on taxpayers.

Gillard definitely is Dillard with that one.

Just wait for the lawyers to start seeing a way to take things to court or sue for adverse decisions.

NDIS Is a costly curse - full stop. I was not aware of the discrimination involved, but it must be realised that age is not a thing any longer respected in Australia. Any government that would do what the Turnbull government did to age pensioners at the last budget will do anything, and they will be allowed to get away withit because Australia society is now a very mean and uncaring one.

NDIS was designed to be largely self funding, enabling many people to work when they would otherwise be unable to. That is why priority is given to people of working age, though AIUI the age restriction is only a temporary measure while it's being phased in.

Aidan's been on the turps again. NDIS is clearly not self-funding or there wouldn't be any need for taxpayers to be robbed to pay for it. But of course, you would expect such waffle from someone who still goes on about 'free' credit which never has to be paid back.

a down syndrome relative of my has had nothing but cuts to funding since Gillard's tears. The vultures are circling with the sniff of more dollars of funding.

Aidan - "NDIS was designed to be largely self funding, enabling many people to work when they would otherwise be unable to. "

There is no way it could self fund itself. People were conned into believing that by Dillard.

Even a lot of workers with no disabilities are still on some form of welfare, so to think someone with a disability will be otherwise is crazy.

So much for self funding.

Budget 2017: A tax rate of 49.5 per cent: What would it mean for Australia?

A permanent tax rate of almost 50 per cent for the highest-earning Australians is on the cards as the government looks to negotiate with Labor and the Senate crossbench to fully fund the $22 billion National Disability Insurance Scheme.

Labor's federal budget reply, released on Thursday, would see people earning more than $180,000 permanently face a 49.5 per cent tax rate, including the 0.5 per cent increase in the Medicare levy announced by the Turnbull government and make permanent a 2 per cent "temporary budget repair levy" that the Coalition is determined to expire on June 30.

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/budget-2017-a-tax-rate-of-495-per-cent-what-it-would-mean-for-australia-20170512-gw3881.html

Maybe it is time to admit it is a failed scheme and drop it.

Gillard was a lot of things, none of them good for Ozzies, but she was no dummy.

The NDIS & Gonski were both time bombs, left by her when she knew she was finished. They were designed to make it impossible for anyone who followed her to design a good budget, & to make sure all of us were punished for not liking her. Even the fools who did then, & still do like her, are paying like the rest of us.

Rudd was just incompetent, & stupid, he hurt us by accident. Gillard was nasty & vindictive, & was out to make us pay long after she had gone. In that she has been very successful.

If Abbott had the guts to do what he knew needed to be done, we might have got out of the trap she laid, but he was foolish enough to try to be liked. With a total gutless wonder like Turnbull who has no idea, she got the perfect patsy to perpetuate her malevolent scheme.

Hasbeen

Excellent summing up.

"What this means is that some indigenous person or refugee who is unable to work, has never worked
and has never paid into the taxation pool is entitled to NDIS support (an electric mobility scooter or mechanical bed etc)"

Thanks Chris, there for a moment I thought good white folk might be up to no good. I'm so glad its only Darkies and Boaties that are getting what they don't deserve!
Maybe those half drowned gay rats you tossed into the Parramatta River (you did say you did that as a young copper) can now get themselves onto the NDIS, what do you think?

"some poor
bugger who has worked all his life,supported his community and family and paid his share of taxes only to fall on hard times." Good white folk I hope.

Aidan, "NDIS has largely been designed to be self funding" - This is the new Orwellian, PC speech, Pollie talk type group of words. It is why the Australian Conservative Party is gaining momentum. It is talking in lies and riddles. I think Australians have had enough. Call it for what it is. Sure is Age Discrimination but.

ttbn,
"Aidan's been on the turps again."
What've you been smoking that brought you to that conclusion? I've never been on the turps in my life!

"NDIS is clearly not self-funding or there wouldn't be any need for taxpayers to be robbed to pay for it."
Firstly, I said LARGELY self funding, not COMPLETELY self funding.
Secondly, the way it would cover its costs is by enabling more disabled people to work. Doing so means more tax revenue. But because costs would be recovered through the tax system, you'd still be complaining about the cost to taxpayers.
Thirdly, I'd expect there to be a time lag between the costs and benefits.

"But of course, you would expect such waffle from someone who still goes on about 'free' credit which never has to be paid back."
It is a FACT that Australia has unlimited credit as long as it sticks to its present policy of only borrowing in Australian dollars. It is impossible to even contrive a hypothetical set of financial circumstances that would force Australia to default on its debt, yet you seem to be worried that a bigger debt would make such an impossible outcome likely!

But I did not describe such credit as "free". Such a description would be misleading, as there are always consequences - but the consequences are not what you blindly assume them to be, and at this stage of the economic cycle they're overwhelmingly positive.

Furthermore, there's nothing special about the value of zero debt. If, in a future boom,
we run enough surpluses to eliminate the debt, we shouldn't use elimination of the debt as an excuse to stop running surpluses.

You people talk as though Centrelink is a sweet pink powder puff, handing out
welfare like Lollies.

Centrelink, is a very tough organisation.

They have to be, and they are.

Don't think all you have to do is go to your Dr. With your disability, they have their own
Drs. Dont think you only have to fill out a couple of pages to apply. It's more like
30pages.
My brother-in-law, at the age of 64years, Had cancer and had a lung out.
Centrelink put him on Newstart, and said, "you are not dying are you" , He said,
I don't know that, I'm not a Dr. Sure enough 6months later he was dead.
Isn't there some way they could be a bit more compassionate with someone at 64years
who is dying.
Les worked hard all his life and was still working before he got sick.
I think they were too tough in that case. But they Seem too soft with a lot of the young fit aboriginals on welfare and the Afican gangs