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Sentencing young, first-timers to Gaol - An education in Crime:

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o sung wu = The answer is why mandatory sentencing is wrong, there are generally always exceptions to rules. One time, benefit of the doubt to apply, if re offends no.

I am not saying the judiciary should come down much harder on the perpetrators, what I said was that certain crimes should follow the perpetrator into adulthood, possibly I would expect some to make wiser choices knowing that certain actions will have a very adverse effect on their future prospects.

It also needs to be educated into children from an early age.

Respect of others etc to me should be a subject taught in primary school, will it work with everyone NO but it will work with some.
Regrettably that should be the job of the parents but too many get a big FAIL.
Posted by Philip S, Wednesday, 10 May 2017 9:59:52 PM
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Backdoor slavery.
The rich cant enslave us legally so they are hoping to catch us all at some trivial misdemeanor and under the cloak of law and order make us all do their bidding or at least not bother them while they wallow in their troughs.
Posted by mikk, Wednesday, 10 May 2017 10:20:10 PM
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o sung wu,

Over-complicated.

Wind it all back and the proactivity that is needed is job skills as early as possible in school. Stream early for boys and girls. Don't irritate and demotivate them with education that is not welcomed by them.

Imagine a concentration on practical work skills in education for indigenous (as an example) living in the country. That would enable them to build, drive transport and heavy equipment, work on farms and so on. They would enjoy it and see it as valuable. Add the sports program that is already successful.

However, where indigenous are concerned that will immediately smack up against the wall of political correctness. The heads of black advocates would be exploding. All here know that.

However if you are serious about heading off problems with youth it is already too late and too hard where they have started offending. That is not to say that millions couldn't be spent on it for a small unmeasurable 'return'. That would suit advocates who would hoover the guvvy money up as usual.
Posted by leoj, Wednesday, 10 May 2017 10:39:44 PM
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You have a point there, mikk.

If the principal smokers of marijuana were affluent older white men and the principal consumers of Viagra were poor black men, then marijuana would be easier to get on prescription while selling Viagra would get you 5 years in prison.

http://www.ted.com/talks/ethan_nadelmann_why_we_need_to_end_the_war_on_drugs

The war on drugs has been an abject failure on may levels, and is a big reason for today's prison populations.
Posted by AJ Philips, Wednesday, 10 May 2017 10:45:24 PM
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mikk - You missed the biggest form of slavery, the majority of people in most countries are slaves to debt, mortgages, credit card debt etc.

More people have to work to pay off these, don't and you lose it and can be put in jail.

Many more people have no other option than to work or loose everything than there are people in jail.
Posted by Philip S, Wednesday, 10 May 2017 11:18:49 PM
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Phil
They already have the debt and wage slaves firmly under control. Now they are after those evil freethinking types who refuse to knuckle under and serve their lordships.
They wont be happy until they have us all bowing and scraping or in a gulag somewhere. Manus or Nauru probably.
Or dead!
What a sad world we have become.
Posted by mikk, Thursday, 11 May 2017 7:10:28 AM
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