Paul1405,

Your contemptuous dismissal of the security threats affecting Muslim women's emancipation rights and human campaigner Ayaan Hirsi Ali and your disgusting disrespect towards her are NOT the actions of the Left that always prided itself on freedom of speech and choice for everyone, not just an elite.

You should not take any comfort or self-justification either that there are other more slippery but equally trenchant opponents of the emancipation of Muslim women who side with you in supporting the medieval totalitarianism that forces girls and women to wear the ISIL's all-enveloping black and blue garbage bags for women.

But then the NSW 'Eastern Bloc' of the Greens that you represent are notorious for such ill-conceived Trotskyist demonstrations as the gutless picketing of an innocent Brisbane chocolate shopkeeper in an attempt to destroy his business and using local government to wage a blockade against Israel, the sole democracy in the Middle East.

Max Brenner's chocolate shop
http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/protesters-target-max-brenner-cafe-20110826-1jeec.html

Obviously, the Greens are the haters of politics, the opportunist ambulance chasers and the cynical political elite who value getting their fat behinds on leather Senate seat before honesty and good sense. Hypocrites.

Your already poor credibility is not assisted by your forum 'Joker' and the other childish behaviour you carry on with.

Hi Leoj & paul,

I'm still puzzled why it is dreadful to offend someone by pointing out truths that everybody in the business knows, as the wonderful Bill Leak did, but it's quite okay to hector and harass and intimidate businesses like Brenner's, and to threaten someone like Ayaan Hirsi Ali with five thousand violent demonstrators.

Also, while we're at it, isn't it bullying to stand over firms to make them adopt pro-homosexual policies ? And is somebody going to be sued for offending some homosexual in the street, when they refuse to accept one of those rings ?

And most of all, I'm puzzled, flummoxed really, how Islamists and homosexuals can work side-by-side to stamp out free speech: maybe because both are completely opportunist ? Somebody mentioned Trotskyites, so that's a slight possibility. Of course, they're both, in their own perverted ways, Utopian, (even if their notions of Utopia differ slightly) and therefore totalitarian. Totalitarians tend to get on well together, up to a point.

Cheers,

Joe

Joe, Loudmouth,

1) Much of it is about money. Whitlam's government was the enabler and paved the way for them. There was the immediate realisation that sectors of dependency could be created and usefully farmed for votes in marginal seats.

2) The use of the devastating Hegelian Paradigm, both sides and to better effect by the leftists - devising a 'problem' to which they already have the 'cure'. That and concentration on the short term.

3) Cult of individualism. Selfishness. Egocentrism. Career politicians.

But cutting to the chase, knowing what you know about life and largely and gained experientially or so it seems to me where you are concerned, you wouldn't exchange places with any of them and nor would I.

Maybe I could add something there about the existential themes and how life has a habit of coming back to bite and when it is least expected and at the worst time.

Hi Leoj,

Yeah, I wonder if there's a sort of rule that crap ideologies will sometimes work together - so current post-modernist 'feminism', Islamism and homosexual ideologies seem to get along together. Weird. Thirty-odd years ago, I thought that feminists would have the sense to keep a distance from homosexual politics, in spite of the perceived slight overlap, because their trajectories were really quite different, but no. I got that wrong.

But on the bright side, check out: https://outlook.live.com/owa/?path=/mail/inbox/rp

So now half-brained 'feminists' capitulate to both the homosexual lobby AND the Islamists. Truly, truly weird.

Cheers,

Joe

Hi Joe,

The notion that certain groups in society tend to shelter under the same umbrella is true only to a certain extent, this can be said of groups from, for want of better terminology, left and right. In the above example it would be wrong to say in support for each others objectives, feminists = homosexuals = Islamists.

Got an old school reggae band tonight, so have to go for now.

Dear Paul,

Isn't it interesting that people who claim to be
proponents of 'Freedom of Speech" (only their own
it seems) are so passionate and against any
criticism that is raised on issues that don't agree
with their viewpoint. Why do they feel they have the
right to criticise everything under the sun, but
criticism of what they passionately believe in is
off limits. A bit one-sided isn't it? And what's with
the constant "labelling?" Most puzzling!