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The 'Modern Family', according to Tara (Beirut) Brown and ABC

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Dear phanto,

Why was I interested?

As Cossomby pointed out - to better understand the world
and the people who live in it. What makes them tick and why they
think the way they do. I wanted to hear it right from
the horses mouth so to speak.
Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 15 March 2017 12:52:59 PM
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Cossomby:

Your presupposition is that because people are fascinated in something that it must be a reasonable thing to be fascinated with.

There are millions of people who are not fascinated in sexuality anymore than they are fascinated in their hormonal system or their breathing apparatus or their skeletal structure. These things are just as fundamental to life as sexuality. We just live our lives. We have sex and then move onto the next thing like eating or working or playing. We are not obsessed with sex. We put it into perspective and live the whole of life.

You seem to be suggesting that just because some people have been fascinated by sex that it is something more fascinating than any other aspect of life. This does not mean that sex is fascinating in itself but that people are unduly troubled by it and cannot get it into perspective. This sends them into an obsessive search for the perspective that others seem to have attained. This has nothing to do with sex and everything to do with perspective.

What you read into history cannot be presumed to be a vindication of the obsession with sex and could just as easily be interpreted as a search for perspective. Many people are not so obsessed and they do not need to watch shows like 60 minutes dish up. They simply do not care.

Instead of making wild generalisations about mankind’s obsession with sex and then making even wilder conclusions from that perhaps you could tell us why you personally wanted to watch that show.

Foxy:
But you are not interested in everything. No one is interested in everything. Why in particular were you interested in this story?
Posted by phanto, Wednesday, 15 March 2017 1:19:21 PM
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Dear phanto,

I've already stated I knew very little about
transgender people. I wanted to make an effort
to learn more.
Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 15 March 2017 1:26:50 PM
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Well, I did warn you...

I'm not trying to vindicate people's fascination with sex, or read anything into history. It's just the way it is. It's why you exist. I'm fascinated but not obsessed in a negative way, while your vehemence against this suggests that you might have the odd hang-up.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/somebodies-and-nobodies/200908/why-are-we-obsessed-sex

http://thesaltcollective.org/the-biblical-case-for-embracing-transgender/

And personally I've always been much more interested in sex than my lungs or skeleton. Like most people?
Posted by Cossomby, Wednesday, 15 March 2017 2:32:13 PM
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Foxy:

“I've already stated I knew very little about
transgender people. I wanted to make an effort
to learn more.”

But you did not say why you wanted to know more. No one delves into a subject without good reason and without specific reason. I don’t see why you cannot provide a specific reason for your interest in how others conduct their sex lives unless you are uncomfortable with that reason.

Cossomby:

“It's just the way it is.”

No that is the way it is for you.

You make a grand statement that people have always been fascinated by sex. Is this all people and all sex? For example are all people fascinated by pedophilia?

From this wild assumption you have deduced that such fascination must be a good thing simply on the basis of the numbers that do it. You cannot produce any numbers but we are simply supposed to accept your word for it. On the basis of your imaginary numbers we should draw the conclusion that such fascination is therefore reasonable. There is no possibility that it could not be reasonable.

This kind of logic is the basis of your argument as to why anyone would watch a show about transgender people. They’ve always been interested and in great numbers. So anything that people are interested in great numbers must of course be reasonable.

“And personally I've always been much more interested in sex than my lungs or skeleton. Like most people?”

Why do you have to tell us that you are interested in sex? We would have already presumed that. Perhaps you are trying to convince yourself.
Posted by phanto, Wednesday, 15 March 2017 3:33:59 PM
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Dear phanto,

Why did I want to learn more about transgender people?
Because I knew so little about them.

I can't make it any clearer.
Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 15 March 2017 4:04:57 PM
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