http://www.newenglishreview.org/blog_direct_link.cfm/blog_id/65869/cat_id/593/Islamised-State-School-in-Sydney-Got-Busted-For-Excluding-Female-Teachers

How many warning signs do our politicians need to see before waking up to the disaster ahead.

Read the above article and you should be alarmed, but then, for many, the football will be more important. But it is there to see as well. How many of the muslim fans of the NRL (Canterbury) have club jerseys with 911 printed on them?. How contemptuous is that?

Time to put a stop to muslim immigration, we do not need any more!

At least the principle was sacked, but it seems that the Punchbowl school has been a virtual Islamic college since the dropkick principal converted to Islam.

All Islamic immigration should cease; it should never have occurred, and we should be deporting all those Muslims we can. And, yes. The football is more important to nitwit Australians than is the future of their country.

Hello Folks,

Just a bit of some light relief to put some smiles
on those very worried faces of yours:

1) All terrorists are Muslims EXCEPT for the gigantic
majority that aren't.

2) Muslims do not plan to take over Australia with their
religion or impose Sharia Law on the rest of us.
The fact is the majority of Muslims actually want to adopt
Australian customs and ways of life. According to
Melbourne and Sydney University studies.

3) If you're scared of Muslims then you should also be scared
of distracted driving, drunk drivers, politicians who lie,
bikie gangs, youth gangs, airplane accidents, falling off ladders,
having falls in general, internet trolls, king-hits, unstable
TVs and furniture, and the list goes on.

4) Islam can't be bad because 5 out of 12 past people who have
won the Nobel Peace Prize have been Muslims. So if all Muslims
are terrorists because a single digit percentage of
terrorists are Muslim then all Muslims must in fact be
peacemakers because 42% of the Nobel Peace Prize winners in the
past 12 years have been Muslims.

5) Muslims in this country have served and are serving currently
in the Military. They wish to protect this country not damage it.

6) Muslims are the largest victims of ISIS's terror as well as the
largest victims of all terrorism in general.

5) Muslims have been in Australia for centuries.

6) Women are put down by Islam.
Not in Australia. There are more Muslim University graduates who are
women. Lawyers, doctors, nurses, teachers, who are contributing
to our society.

I could go on but I think you're getting the idea.

Have an enjoyable Labour Day.

Cheers.

Foxy,

People used to say exactly the same things about National Socialism in Germany, how did it pan out?

Ask the Jews, the Gypsies and anyone else on the "we don't like you" list.

Dear Is Mise,

You can blame Hitler for that - a guy who physically
was not top notch but was convinced he had
superior genes.

cont'd ...

BTW - National Socialism in Germany existed in the 1930s/40s
whereas the Muslim religion has exited for centuries.

I'm occasionally dumbfounded when I hear someone defend the indefensible. Of course there are many more Muslims living peacefully in Oz than not. But over a short period of time we've seen some younger Muslim people become radicalized and become terrorists.

Someone drew a correlation with Nazi Germany, it was only the Nazi's who were the bad guys not the German people. But step back a piece, and examine the damage the Nazi's had occasioned to virtually the entire world, even to their very own German people.

If the Muslim community wish to expand and increase their numbers in this Country, that's OK. Provided they can prove unequivocally, they'll immediately terminate ALL CRIME. That originates from anywhere within the Muslim population in Australia including her Territories. Impossible I hear you say? Of course it is however hard they may try.

Why then does a surgeon need to excise much more healthy tissue, surrounding a Tumor, whenever he's attempting to remove a malignant growth? It's a sad fact Muslim immigrating from Lebanon under Malcolm FRASER, was a distinct failure. And we've now got a very worrying Muslim predicament, together with a large illegal weapons and drugs dilemma. As I've said before 'til blue in the bloody face, see which criminal group runs Long Bay Gaol - the biggest boob in Oz?

Dear O Sung Wu,

Can any community in Australia guarantee or prove
100% that they will terminate all crime? Any one at all?

I don't think that anybody is defending criminal acts
of whatever form on this forum. However, the attempt
that is being made here is to show that prejudice is an
irrational, inflexible attitude toward an entire category
of people and is extremely unfair. It is rooted in
generalisations and so ignores the differences among
individuals. By all means criticise the criminals,
the terrorists, the 'card-carrying fundamentalists' but
don't tar all Muslims with the same brush.

With all due resoect Foxy, why dont you wake up and smell the roses.

One single terrorist is one too many in this peace loving nation and considering the number of extemeists we have home grown, do you need any more proof.

Islam is a movement and if the day comes where so called moderate Muslims have to choose between their faith, or to follow the law of where they reside, i recon we pretty much know the answer. Tic, Tic, Tic!

Dear rehctub,

Right.

It's your "expertise" that comes into play
here.

Do you actually know any Muslims?

'Cause I do.

Dear Banjo,

Beating the same old drum again? Could be time for a new skin. Well done this financial year as you started two topics which were not about Muslims, probably a record for someone who is as fixated as you. You missed November and December but are now back on the once a month schedule.

Have the major parties got it wrong on immigration?
Thread started by Banjo on 5/6/2016, at 11:42:47 AM.

Muslim deradicalisation
Thread started by Banjo on 26/7/2016, at 1:10:58 AM.

Another Non Sentence given for Female Genital Multilation
Thread started by Banjo on 11/9/2016, at 12:23:19 PM.

Change Australian Immigration Policy?
Thread started by Banjo on 2/10/2016, at 9:03:13 PM.

It must be high time we stopped muslim entry to Aus.
Thread started by Banjo on 1/1/2017, at 1:16:17 PM.

Should refugees and immigrants get more lenient sentences in courts
Thread started by Banjo on 18/2/2017, at 8:38:22 AM.

Islamisation of Australia, bit by bit
Thread started by Banjo on 12/3/2017, at 8:49:46 AM.

So how do you pick your stories? Obviously not on their merits because you space them out to do one each month.

Can I remind you there is a bit more to life than constant Muslim bashing my friend. Perhaps you should be seeing someone.

What we are seeing here in the schools is the Trojan Horse program.
This program was devised in Birmingham in the UK a couple of years or so ago.
The British education authorities had a very difficult time getting
back control of their schools. They had very intense parental resistance.

Foxy do not be so naive, their Immans do not hide the objective.
You need to have a look at other countries where the percentages
are higher than in Australia.
Give me a reason to believe it will be different here.
You will tell me how lovely the ones you have dealt with have been.
Quite true no doubt, but that misses the point.
The Bil Al gang was not unique by any means, it is normal moslem practise.

When push comes to shove they will follow the mosque as they have
done in EVERY other country. Give me ONE exception, just ONE !

STEELEREDUX - Maybe BANJO does beat the same drum over further immigration of Muslims into OZ, and I happen to agree with him. He's articulating his opinion, and you, a more perverse view. That's the nature of The Forum. Instead of denouncing him, why don't you show him and me, as I agree with him, why it is we're both wrong. In fact probably enjoin with FOXY as she appears to have a similar view to yours, and you can both show us where we're in error.

I'll even go a bit further, and say it's my sincere belief the next major conflict that will be affect most of the world (the cause of which will retrogress back centuries), will be fought exclusively on religious grounds. Anyone who entirely repudiates this, is living in a wholly insular existence. Muslim vs Christian & Jews.

It's emergence is quietly taking place in the here and now, look around and you'll see. Muslims are even trying to take over some of our High Schools. Punchbowl near Bankstown (a well known Muslim enclave) but you already know that. Look about STEELEDEDUX the signs are all there for those who care to look.

Just a bit of some light relief to put some smiles on those very worried faces of yours:

1) All terrorists are Muslims EXCEPT for the gigantic majority that aren't.

But are waiting for the opportunity when the moslim population goes above 4%

2) Muslims do not plan to take over Australia with their religion or impose Sharia Law on the rest of us.
The fact is the majority of Muslims actually want to adopt Australian customs and ways of life. According to
Melbourne and Sydney University studies.

You are kidding yourself. Nowhere on this Planet has that ever been true. Would you believe studies done by Left Wing Socialists who go out of the way to support moslims. I would like to conduct my own Poll with my Questions & see what the result would be. You would say my Poll would be Biased. Wouldn’t the Uni’s be also? In extreme, I’d say.

3) If you're scared of Muslims then you should also be scared of distracted driving, drunk drivers, politicians who lie, bikie gangs, youth gangs, airplane accidents, falling off ladders, having falls in general, internet trolls, king-hits, unstable TVs and furniture, and the list goes on.

Yep scared of them as well. But I have some control over those things.

Cont.

Cont.
4) Islam can't be bad because 5 out of 12 past people who have won the Nobel Peace Prize have been Muslims. So if all Muslims are terrorists because a single digit percentage of terrorists are Muslim then all Muslims must in fact be peacemakers because 42% of the Nobel Peace Prize winners in the past 12 years have been Muslims.

Appeasing moslims. They gave Arafat a “Peace Prize” Go figure.

5) Muslims in this country have served and are serving currently in the Military. They wish to protect this country not damage it.

& hasn’t that stirred the Pot in the Military & not favourably either.

6) Muslims are the largest victims of ISIS's terror as well as the largest victims of all terrorism in general.

Yes they are in their own Countries, not so in Countries who have taken them in.

5) Muslims have been in Australia for centuries.

Yes they have, some arrived with the first fleet. They were an extremely small minority who didn’t try to kill people. Unlike the latest influx has.

6) Women are put down by Islam. Not in Australia. There are more Muslim University graduates who are
women. Lawyers, doctors, nurses, teachers, who are contributing to our society.

Yep I see them in their Burkas etc. Getting yelled at for speaking to a Kaffir, FMG, Child marriages, & on & on & on.

Dear o sung wu,

We have rehashed this general topic many, many times on OLO and time and time again Banjo has been shown up as spreading half-truths or even total falsehoods. Are you really suggesting we do it all again each time he posts up a slightly different version of his shtick? The time that it becomes repetitive and mind-numbingly boring has well past.

I wouldn't do it for Banjo but I'm happy to humour you.

To his first point. I am always deeply offended when special religious interest groups interfere with our public schools. What had happened at Punchbowl needed to be stopped and I'm glad the department has acted. The fact that Howard managed to attack years of secularism in our schools by virtually forcing religious instruction down the necks of public school kids along with spending hundreds of millions of dollars on chaplains was also atrocious.

My question to you is should a Muslim majority school like Punchbowl have an Imam rather than a Christian Chaplin at their school? I would see the lot off if given the chance.

Those who are after a religious education for their kids should go and pay for it in the private system full stop. There are all Jewish schools where the M/F teacher ratios are dramatically skewed. In the end I might not like it but I will wear it as they are mainly doing it without calling on the taxpayer.

Next our serial stirrer talked about Muslim fans of Canterbury rugby Club wearing 911 on their jerseys but offered no evidence. Given the circles Banjo swims in I wouldn't bet my house on its veracity but if he backs it up I will address it. But knowing him that is unlikely.

Cont..

Cont..

You wrote;

“Someone drew a correlation with Nazi Germany, it was only the Nazi's who were the bad guys not the German people.”

Not true I'm afraid.

His ideas, including those involving the Jews, were taken up very enthusiastically by a large segment of the German population even before he gained power.

Evidence for this is Hitler's book Mein Kampf. It made him a fortune complete with expensive house and a chauffeur driven car.

“Although Hitler originally wrote this book mostly for the followers of National Socialism, it grew in popularity. Hitler had made about 1.2 million Reichsmarks from the income of his book by 1933, when the average annual income of a teacher was about 4,800 Marks.”
Wikipedia

Yet after the war we took in tens of thousands of German immigrants including my father in law.

Should we have kept the doors closed?

Just as aside I wouldn't mind your professional opinion. There has been a bit of discussion recently about Hitler's supposed drug use including meth-amphetamines. Here is a short clip of him at the 36 Munich Olympics. Is this type of agitation something you recognise from your policing duties?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IB8FCye08g8

Well Steele,
Immigration has long been a topic of interest to me. Ever since Whitlam and Fraser started bringing in plane loads of people that had nothing in common with us and stated they would change the country to Sharia law. The lefties embraced multiculturalism and agreed that we should change to accommodate these alien cultures. In fact the more diverse the culture, the keener the left were on them. Then came Hawke PM who brokered the deal with the LNP to not debate immigration and like matters, which was to stiffle debate. I recall the old muslim blokes in dresses calling young girls whores for wearing a bikini at the beach and muslim taxi drivers not allowing guide dogs in cabs.

Then came the 'illegal boat people'. Many were involved in debate on OLO about this and the lefties hated them being refered to as 'ilegals'. Took a long time but we won the day and Morrison and Abbott stopped the boats. Persistance won out and will do again.

High immigration is supported by big business because it creates more sales of goods, etc, for them and major parties bow to those that donate to them. Big business cares nought for the adverse impacts of high immigration.

But me, I care for the well being of my country and will continue to work to stop aliens coming that will not integrate and try to change us. To lower immigration it is best to stop entry of those that don't suit us or like us.

So expect more of the same in future until that problem is resolved.

Foxy,

".... However, the attempt that is being made here is to show that prejudice is an irrational, inflexible attitude toward an entire category of people and is extremely unfair. It is rooted in
generalisations and so ignores the differences among
individuals. By all means criticise the criminals,
the terrorists, the 'card-carrying fundamentalists' but
don't tar all Muslims with the same brush."

All Muslims are members of the Ummah; which is defined by Wiki as

"Ummah (Arabic: أمة‎‎) is an Arabic word meaning "community". It is distinguished from Sha'b (Arabic: شعب‎‎) which means a nation with common ancestry or geography. Thus, it can be said to be a supra-national community with a common history.
It is a synonym for ummat al-Islamiyah (Arabic: الأمة الإسلامية‎‎) (the Islamic Community), and it is commonly used to mean the collective community of Islamic peoples. In the Quran the ummah typically refers to a single group that shares common religious beliefs, specifically those that are the objects of a divine plan of salvation.[1][2] In the context of Pan-Islamism and politics, the word Ummah can be used to mean the concept of a Commonwealth of the Believers (أمة المؤمنين ummat al-mu'minīn)."

All Muslims believe in the Qur'an, and in the teachings of Muhammad,
the good bits and the bad bits, otherwise they're not Muslims; the Qur'an is the tar brush.

Dear Is Mise,

You're a Catholic I believe.

How well do you know your holy book and do you
take it literally? How can all Muslims who come
from so many different countries, speak so many
different languages, have different cultures,
practice their religion in exactly the same way?
That's not logical.

Foxy: How well do you know your holy book and do you take it literally?

I know it well. I was brought up on it, drummed into me at school. I won a bursary & was presented to the Bishop of Townsville, 1962. I still look it up, much to the chanargen of the local visiting JW's. Old Jim send his newbie to me for lessons in tolerance. ;-)

How can all Muslims who come from so many different countries, speak so many different languages, have different cultures, practice their religion in exactly the same way? That's not logical.

There are many different Sect of moslim but they all have the same aim in common even the nice ones. Kill the Kaffir! if they don't convert.

Foxy, would you convert if you were forced to the point, choose, convert, pay or die? Which will it be?

Hey steelie, you still haven't answered my Questions yet. When?

Dear Banjo,

Evidence that Muslim supporters of Canterbury are walking around with 911 on their club jerseys please.

Foxy,

Yes, I'm a Catholic; what is the holy book of which you speak?

Dear Is Mise,

I am a Catholic.

People claiming to 'know' Muslims are kidding themselves

Foxy,

I presume that you mean the Bible?

Yes, I do take it literally.

IsMise: I presume that you mean the Bible? Yes, I do take it literally.

How silly is that?

So you'll be marrying babies, eating your young & stoning your misbehaving children to death?

Jayb,

As Foxy is a catholic I was using "literally" in the sense that it is used in the Catechism of the Catholic Church; the which I would hope that she understands.

See:http://aleteia.org/2015/09/02/do-catholics-take-the-bible-literally/

Foxy,

1) All terrorists are Muslims EXCEPT for the gigantic majority BUT all Muslims accept the hate and violence in the Quran and approve of Mohammeds evil actions

2) Muslims do not plan to take over Australia or impose Sharia Law BUT when they become a majority the song changes. Look at Islamic societies. Look how Muslims treat minorities.

3) If you're scared of Muslims then you should also be scared of... HOW stupid! It is not “scared” – try “dislike”, “disgusted”, or “offended by” an evil theology.

4) Islam can't be bad because 5 of 12 past people who have won the Nobel Peace Prize have been Muslims AND it has helped so much, right!. So, Muslims need peace more than others? No Amish has ever won the NPP, so they must be really violent.

5) Muslims in this country have served and are serving currently in the Military. So what? Too bad they don’t fight radical Islam, instead they flee to the West.

6) Muslims are the largest victims of ISIS's terror as well as the largest victims of all terrorism. What is new about this? Muslims have been killing each other since the time of your prophet. Read the hadith and all early histories. The Quran says that Muslims are put on earth to “kill and be killed”, in doesn’t specify that the killed have to be nonMuslims.

5) Muslims have been in Australia for centuries BUT only recently in large numbers, resulting in increased hate and violence.

6) Women are put down by Islam - NOT YET. it is just a matter of time for Muslim women to be subjugated as demanded by sharia.

Well Foxy, do you have any idea of the evil done by the vile religion you blindly and irrationally defend? Ever watch the telly or read newspapers?

kactuz

facts are ignored by regressives. They prefer fake news that fits very failed narratives.

Steele,
If you doubt that muslim NRL fans are wearing jerseys with 911 printed on them, you can look it up for yourself. You are the one casting the doubt so prove it!

Just a tip, try last Sundays newspapers or watch some home games of the Bulldogs and you may even see some. NRL will play it down.

To me the issue is very secondary to the issue at Punchbowl Boys School and simply shows the arrogance and contempt these muslims have for our country and society. Nothing new in that, just like the celebrations at Lakemba after the 911 terror attack. Should have let them go to support ISIL in Syria

Dear kactuz,

You seem to have missed my point entirely.

I am not defending the religion. Nor Islamic
fundamentalists. What I am defending is
an entire category of people and the prejudice rooted
in generalisations against them that does not allow for
individual differences. But in this country this has
always been the case for some (including government
policies - like the White Australia). So that's nothing
new. One group or another has always been targeted - be
it our Indigenous , Asians, Italians, Greeks, Polish, Irish, et cetera - the
list goes on. It's always the latest "flavour of the month,"
that replaces the previous targets. It appears to be the norm.

Cheers.

Foxy,

Who else has a Holy Book that equals in ferocity the Qur'an of the Moslems?

Shew me one Islamic Scholar (they do not have clerics) who has dared to challenge the word of the Prophet.

Foxy,

For starters, Islam definitely does NOT allow for “individual differences” itself. But, I cannot find any connection at all between the medieval, religio/political creed of Islam, and the people on your list, unless some of them also follow the Islamic doctrine, which you have not taken into account. ,

Surely you are not still comparing the minor discomfort caused by 1950s immigrants of different ethnic and racial backgrounds with the current intake of globalising Islam? Even the newer Asian immigrants cannot be compared with Muslims in any way whatsoever. They have not brought an entirely undemocratic, alien way of life to us. They mix and intermarry; work, and generally add to our well-being. They pretty much put Australianism before any religious and politically dogma.

You might have your own reasons for defending Muslims, but comparing them with other people who have successfully settled in Australia, and proven that they are not going to cause us problems, does not explain your reasons to the rest of us. Perhaps you don't feel any need to explain your reasons but then, what is the point of making statements?

No Foxy there has NEVER been a group like Islamists.
They do NOT believe in multiculturalism.

You never answered my question.

When push comes to shove they will follow the mosque as they have
done in EVERY other country. Give me ONE exception, just ONE !

I realised it would be hard, but --

STEELEREDUX... To your last paragraph first. Many of the druggies I've locked up have behaved in many and varied ways. From sleeping, immediately after they've been 'ramped' & printed, to stacking on a blue. Visions of HITLER inexplicable rocking back 'n forth can be down to many reasons, excitement, nerves, drugs, alcohol, who'd know, I don't. The only common denominator with druggies, is their unpredictability whether male or female.

Punchbowl High School should have neither, Imam nor Christian Chaplain. The purpose of a High School is to educate and prepare kids for either University or a TAFE education. Both are preparatory for obtaining employment. These verbal threats occasioned against the new Headmaster, should've gone to police for immediate reprisal and retaliation. Otherwise the perpetrators will 'again' show their peer groups their power, and how they've won. Thus further cultivating a psychological superiority, that's clearly resistive and antagonistic to the school's authority.

However, I wonder why it is that you bear so much enmity toward BANJO and what he's said? Clearly STEELEREDUX there's a threat in this country from certain elements of the Muslim community. BANJO is fundamentally correct (in principle), with his chronology of immigration. Commencing with the Messrs WHITLAM & FRASER governments. We've all seen progressive governments get it wrong with immigration. Yet we still adopt this softly softly attitude to the question of further Muslims coming here. Why STEELEREDUX, sure as hell I don't know? Are they waiting for S.Western Sydney, to implode with racial strife? You're no fool, surely you must see what's happening in our country?

Why, because our politicians are either too (personally) scared, live in a political vacuum, or have a sizable Muslim electorate, and like living the palatial and opulent style of being a federal politician. I don't understand why you personally support them, when you've clearly seen the burgeoning threat, emanating from their very presence. In Melbourne, they've got 'structured' violent gangs of Somalian and Sudanese terrorizing the 'bejesus' out of all and sundry. You'd expect this behaviour in the suburbs of Beirut or somewhere similar.

O Sung Wu said;
or have a sizable Muslim electorate,

Now that is something to worry about, it will not get better just worse.

the reason the leftist ignore some muslims hostility towards this nation is because they share it. Of course their true hatred is Christianity which largely has given them the prosperous lifestyles they have.

Runner,

You are right. The Left and Islam are ideally suited to each other; just as the Nazis and Islam cooperated during WW11. Muslims, the Left, Nazis, all tarred with the same undemocratic, fascist brush.

Dear o sung wu,

You wrote;

“I wonder why it is that you bear so much enmity toward BANJO and what he's said?”

Firstly mate I don't have much enmity toward Banjo at all. Others on this forum far better fit that description. Banjo really is pretty harmless and very predictable. He isn't flagging issues as they arise but rather sticking to a monthly timetable of raising some anti-Muslim story to beat his drum. It doesn't matter to him what story it is, or how much merit it might have, all that is important is that he rings the bell like clockwork. It is hard to respect someone who is that mechanical or that base or that single minded but he's not someone I waste enmity on.

In fact I really don't have much enmity toward any forum members. Those I consider complete tossers I just ignore and the rest I just work to shine a light on whatever they claim as a truth.

Perhaps my tone you mistake for enmity. Don't. I am employing the same tone doled out with such gusto from the resident right-wingers on this site. Historically not my usual style but it fits serves a purpose.

Shadow Minister is a case in point banging on unmercifully about the elites. Now I go out of my way to point out just how much the label fits him.

Cont..

Cont..

To the Muslim question. I have repeatedly called for an Australian boycott of Saudi Arabia on this forum but it has fallen on deaf ears. That nation is responsible for spreading a form of Islam that promotes fundamentalism, radicalisation, and terrorism. However much oil they have and however much it hurts us economically they need to be completely sidelined. No head of state visits, no sporting exchanges, no diplomatic ties, and no Australian troops on their soil.

All guys like Banjo want to do is slag off about refugees, make up idiotic stories about them taking over this country, and to stop helping anyone from Muslim regions impacted by war. They are picking on the most weak and vulnerable while not raising a finger against the most powerful. I don't know what you call it but to me that is just cowardly. That is why I stick the boot in on occasion. Indeed look at you conflating Sudanese gangs with Muslims while most of the refugees from that nation have been Christian.

I would halve our immigration quotas in a heart beat because I think as a nation we need a breather and to take stock. The rate of change is just too much for some people. But at the same time I would raise our refugee intake by 50%. I think most Australians take real pride in our country assisting those from war torn countries. At the moment this involves Middle Eastern and northern African nations but this can alter quickly.

I know this will not be a satisfactory answer for you but you did ask. Take it for what it is. I have tried to give a measured response to you but if you feel more inclined to duke it out we can travel that path too.

Hi there BAZZ...

These little electoral enclaves can be quite insidious in the way they evolve, and operate, seemingly with the tacit support of their local member of parliament. Who's keen to demonstrate his/her concern for their well being. thus ensuring their vote at the next election.

Though 98% of the Muslims within these enclaves are basically decent, hard working people, it's the remaining 2% that can cause problems, by covertly moving about the others, quietly sewing dissent and cultivating younger more impressionable Islamic kids, into achieving more noble causes for the Prophet. Just one stick of AN60, with nails, screws, or any old sharp metallic bits, adhered fast to the surfaces of the explosive will do it, then.....'glorious martyrdom'? It won't hurt they're told, it's so quick you know absolutely nothing. That's about right, AN60 has a high detonation rate of around 29,000FPS. Moreover your name will be forever ascribed as a Holy Warrior for the causes of Islam.

I wish I were wrong. This whole thing, just a mere figment of an old man's imagination.

Dear Steele,

I Googled links concerning the NRL 9/11 tops that Banjo
claimed earlier happened. I couldn't find anything at all.

However, I did find a link where former President Obama
honored American Muslim players who were killed during
the 9/11 incident. Perhaps Banjo got a bit mixed up?

In the last 50 years we have fought two wars that commenced on a false premise, Vietnam and Iraq 2. The execution of both wars was woeful. Over 100,000 innocent civilians died needlessly in each of the wars. Millions were displaced in both wars. Destabilised regions were further destabilised by these wars and as a result that instability saw the rise of genocidal groups, the Khmer Rouge and ISIS. Refugees from both conflicts made their way to Australia only to receive a hostile reaction from large sections of Australian society.

We are the lager louts from Oceania fuelled by the smell of power from having our heads so far up the backside of the USA. Reckless, irresponsible, unapologetic vandals that believe that there are zero consequences for destroying the lives of millions. As we saw from the Lindt cafe debacle, we are lucky that we are we dealing with a miniscule bunch of immature and incompetent fundamentalists and not an organised militia. If the Coalition of the willing had laid waste to Ireland as it did to Iraq, every CBD in every state capital would have been blown to pieces by car and truck bombs; politicians and senior armed forces personnel would have been taken out. So give me a Muslim any day over cultural supremacists who believe in their country right or wrong because the last time I looked we have never been invaded by a Moslem country.

I predicted that a long time ago. It will happen in the whole Australia, then Europe and whole world. You will see.

Isn't it interesting how Foxy goes quiet when she is asked to explain herself.If she cannot refer to the Guardian of the ABC, she is struck dumb.

Dear ttbn,

Gee whiz, I think that Foxy has more than explained
where she stands on things in this discussion.
She probably feels there's no further point in
being repetitive. For her this discussion has probably
well and truly run its course.

You do that all the time, ttbn.

<<Isn't it interesting how Foxy goes quiet when she is asked to explain herself.>>

Every time I ask you to expand on something, or justify a claim, you slink off to another thread and simply repeat your dubious claim there instead. Either that or dig you heels in by re-asserting the very same claim.

<<If she cannot refer to the Guardian of the ABC, she is struck dumb.>>

At least the Guardian is willing to make himself available to Foxy from time to time for her reference. I spoke to the Guardian of the Australian, and he just thinks you’re an ass.

http://ibb.co/kbZHDv

Foxy,

I answered your last question to me, so how about you answer this:

Who else has a Holy Book that equals in ferocity the Qur'an of the Moslems?

Shew me one Islamic Scholar (they do not have clerics) who has dared to challenge the word of the Prophet.

Dear Is Mise,

I am not a theologian so I can't answer your question
about the "ferocity" of religious Holy Books. How many
people actually could do that. Most of us are not all
that familiar with our own.

As for "Criticism of Islam?"

If you were to Google that topic you would find quite a
few links on the web. Here is just one:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Islam

Anti-Colonial: Refugees from both conflicts made their way to Australia only to receive a hostile reaction from large sections of Australian society.

I dispute that. Any hostility was minimal & mostly from the Left because they were fleeing from Communism & Socialism. Strange that. They were mostly Buddhists & Catholics.

Anti-Colonial: the last time I looked we have never been invaded by a Moslem country.

You haven't looked at the EU or the UK lately?

Foxy: Most of us are not all that familiar with our own.

Oh yes we are, & becoming more familiar with the koran too. It's a pity you don't make yourself familiar with the koran. There are a lot on here that have tried to educate you but you stick your head in the sand every time or deflect.

cont'd ...

Here's another link:

http://theconversation.com/factcheck-qanda-has-the-grand-mufti-of-australia-condemned-terrorist-attacks-overseas-62688

STEELEREDUX stated inter alia '...I've tried to give you a more measured response but if you feel more inclined to 'duke' it out, we can travel that path too...'. or similar. And, '...guys like BANJO want to do is to slag off about refugees...' As I've said, Banjo is entitled to his opinion, as much as you are yours. You know STEELEREDUX you're becoming much more pugnacious lately, I wonder why? And you know me 'mate' I love a good stink.

Perhaps we should invert the narrative somewhat, shall we? '...guys like STEELEREDUX want to do is support refugee immigration and Islam per se...'? You're alleging BANJO and his cohorts are more interested picking on the weak and vulnerable, while not raising a finger against the powerful.

Who are the most powerful, the USA the EU. How do you define the weak and vulnerable - would it be ordinary citizen out and about shopping. A split second later, a massive bomb functions, or similarly a large truck mercilessly runs down a group of innocent people. And none had a clue it was coming.

Earlier you said something to the effect, '...we're simply rehashing this same old topic...' I agree.

Perhaps you might cast your mind back, when we first debated this topic. Look at how the terrorist threat to this country has escalated. And the burgeoning growth of Deash has evolved since then. Sure they're having some successes defeating Deash in Syria.

But they'll never be able to eradicate their ideology, their fanaticism or deactivate radicalisation. They may lose the battle, militarily. They'll simple avail themselves to habitual terrorism with terrorists strategies and tactics. Striking into the very heart of the West, their cities, places of worship and education...you name it. They'll attack those places that'll hurt us most, with these insidious bombings calculated to kill hundreds of innocent souls.

STEELEREDUX it's 'Muslim' terrorists who are turning our world into a more dangerous place, even more so, than when we first started speaking about it, you must see that surely?

o sung wu,

You are too much of a gentleman to be locking horns with Steeleredux, who is a Lefty thug, not worth the effort.

Dear Jayb,

Why on earth would I want to make myself familiar with
somebody else's Holy Book? I have enough on my plate
just keeping up with my daily life. What with volunteering
at my mum's nursing home, looking after grandchildren,
copping with my injuries (I've got one good leg left),
going to specialists, taking my medications - and you want
me to now humour you - as well?

I take people as I find them and so far I've been very
fortunate. Most people have been decent human beings.
It is the spirit of the human being which can fill me with
more joy than anything in the world. I've actually met very
few bad people along my life's journey. That could be due
to the way that I was brought up.

Hi there TTBN...

Thank you very much indeed for your generous compliment, albeit undeserved as it was. STEELEREDUX is OK, we've 'kicked about' many a topic over time, rarely ever agreeing to anything of substance, nevertheless I thoroughly enjoy the sport as it were, and so does he I suspect. As a matter of interest there's only one contributor herein which I have an utter dislike, and he knows it. Thanks again ol' man, and stay true to your beliefs and opinions, that's what it's all about.

Dear ttbn,

SteeleRedux a lefty thug, you say?

No. It's a huge disservice to label people.

You're better than that.

Left/Right/ or closed minded or open minded?
A mind set in its ways is wasted.
Don't do it.

Some wise person once said that:

"I find the best minds are closed with openable windows."

OSW: They may lose the battle, militarily. They'll simple avail themselves to habitual terrorism with terrorists strategies and tactics.

In other words, "We'll keep blowing you up until you get the message & convert to Islam. If you don't convert to the right type of Islam we'll blow you up some more & if you switch types of Islam you be an apostate & we'll blow you up again." Wonderful religion, isn't it?

Foxy,

"I am not a theologian so I can't answer your question"

Funny that; you asked if I took the Bible literally; I guess that that was just an empty question to fill in space, and here was I thinking that there may have been some depth to your question.

dear Mrs Foxy...

You say to TTBN "it is big diservice to label people, and you are better than that" And a lot of other words too.

How come you say that about TTBN and not that about that nasty AJ Phillips person? When he calls TTBN an ASS, also he make a reference with a picture from the Guardian?

When AJ Phillips attack me you also stick up for him. Even when he said words like God and dogs about Albanian people. That is hurting Albanian people to say that. He is a nasty man yet you like him?

misanthrope,

Foxy did not endorse what I said. What she did was inform me that she was unaware of your penchant for attacking me so viciously and unprovoked, and noted (in a round-about way) that my otherwise-out-of-character response to you made a little more sense once she was made aware of your past behaviour.

By the way, my provoked response to your unprovoked attack on me was so obviously absurd that it completely detracted from any seriousness or offensiveness that could reasonably be taken from it.

Lighten up.

You persistently attack me with absolutely no provocation whatsoever. In fact, the only reason you ever comment nowadays is to attack me. No one here deserves that kind of treatment from anyone. You have developed an unhealthy obsession with me, and despite my polite requests that you justify, or at least explain, your horrendous and downright psychotic tirades, you never do.

You obviously have some serious mental health issues that require professional help. But I will no longer excuse your actions or turn the other cheek because of that. Attack me, and I will hit back. Enough is enough.

By the way, if ttbn is going to behave like an ass, then people may point that out. There is nothing unfair about that and it’s easily avoidable.

ttbn,
Do not discourage O Sung Wu, he writes well and factual. I am sure many respect his views.

I will keep on posting even though there is no hope of changing Steeles views. I recall Graham Young once telling us that a lot more people read OLO than actually post here.. So there is a good chance that others may be influenced.

o sung wu,
Your example of a terrorist attack on common people is most concerning. Also of huge concern is the rape and sexual harassment of our females. Examples are everywhere in Europe, not to mention pack rapes in Sydney, 2000. The police got some but not all. Females have become the sacrificial lambs in this diversity of cultures that those like Steele claim we need. Foxy and Steele seem to accept that is the price we have to pay for diversity. They offer no way of changing alien culture.

You say Phillips, are a cry baby if I'm so silly why you bother answer me. You say you know me OK who am I? Baostful know all.

Dear Is Mise,

Speaking about depth and substance...

The poet Sanober Khan wrote:

"depth and substance
the two most exquisite qualities
be it in a poem
or a person."

You see what I mean, misanthrope? More insults and no reasoning to justify any of them.

Do you even know why it is that you say what it is that you say anymore? I mean, what’s this stuff about me being a “cry baby”, or a know-it-all? I don’t remember ever sulking about anything; and the more I learn, the more I realise I don’t know. So, the “know-it-all” accusation is clearly made up.

Or perhaps I once explained to you why you were wrong on a particular point and you didn’t take to it very well?

What is it that I did or said in the past that gave you the idea that such remarks were justified, I wonder? You don’t even know, do you? You just ramble in your usual disturbed and disjointed manner because your thoughts are so fragmented now that none of them even make any sense to you anymore.

But I think we've disrupted this discussion enough for one day, don't you? Let us go outside for a while, take it the deep breaths, remove it the big angers, and feel big enjoys. What you think, Albania?

Tingellon bukur?

Dear Banjo,

Talking about "alien culture"...

Simon Tatz wrote an article in The Drum, 27th Nov. 2015
that is worth Googling.

He tells us that "Muslim and Jewish refugees share a
similar experience in Australia... You can't "assimilate"
when you're constantly being reminded that you're something
"other". The rhetoric is - they don't assimilate, their
religion is incompatible, their beliefs don't accord with
ours, some refugees may be terrorists ..."

Tatz states that very similar language was used about the Jews
during WWII when Western Nations refused to accept Jewish
refugees fleeing the Holocaust. Today we are witnessing similar
fears and phobias with calls for Syrian refugees to be refused
entry and presumably to face a similar fate at the hands of
Islamic State. Tatz says the question shouldn't be whether
Muslims or Jews integrate. It's whether people of different
religions, races, and ethnicity are allowed to become "Australian".

Australians like to think of themselves as egalitarian, and the
land of the fair go, but for some it obviously is more of a
fantasy than reality. For some Tatz points out the reality is
that people who are different - look different, dress different,
speak different, and practice different religious rites and
customs - are constantly being reminded of their "otherness".

You can't assimilate or integrate when your "otherness" is always
being used as a point of differentiation.

Today it is Muslims who are being told they are not "Australian"
that their religion, politics, history, and beliefs do not accord
with mainstream Australian society. Tatz says that in a rewriting
of history, some people point to post WWII refugees, who they
feel apparently adapted better.

But the refugees who fled the horrors of Europe were according
to Tatz also victims of vilification, prejudice, and distrust.
Tatz tells us they were also refused refugee status. He reminds
us - how the Allied Nations infamously turned back boats full of
Jewish refugees while the British not just stopped boatloads
of Holocaust survivors headed for Palestine/Israel, they
actually returned Jewish boat people to then recently liberated
concentration camps in Europe to die.

Hey Foxy,
You can't "assimilate" when you're constantly being reminded that you're something "other".

That's garbage, it's just people making up excuses to justify not actually wanting to be "Australian" like the rest of us in the first place.

The problem right there is Jews and Muslims, by identifying as such their real loyalties lie elsewhere.
How can they ever be 'Australian' like the other 'Australians' when they put Israel or Islam ahead of Australia?

So we have some 'Australians' thet would live and for the country.
And other 'Australians' who think it's just a half way house till they get somewhere else, or turn Australia into something else.

And you wanna know what I see?

A total dilution of what "Australian" is.
The stripping away of our very identity which people like yourself champion.
I'm not criticising, I'm just saying it is what it is.

Nowadays everyone is fighting to be included as an 'Australian'.
Everything that once wasn't 'Australian' now is?
How long till I see a mexican walking down the street with a sombrero and they are considered Australian?
How long till African pygmies fight to be included as Australian, and Eskimos?

Suddenly... 'Australian' doesn't mean anything anymore.
And our identity will have been erased, we'll just all be global citizens, the same as anywhere else.

//Who else has a Holy Book that equals in ferocity the Qur'an of the Moslems?//

What does reading and writing have to do with anything? There were plenty of religions more ferocious than the worst forms of Islam... should we give them all a free pass because they used pictograms or oral tradition or whatever instead of written language?

//How long till I see a mexican walking down the street with a sombrero and they are considered Australian?//

Sorry, what? Are people defined in terms of their choice of headwear? Because in the winter I often favour a scarlet woolen hood. I look a bit like a medieval monk or an outlaw of Nottingham forest. If you saw me out and about in my hood would you assume I'd wandered through some time portal, or just that I was a weirdo in a silly hat? I'm pretty sure most Mexicans don't really wear sombreros - it's just for the tourists.

But now I know about this secret hat business I shall wear my fancy-dress 'Philosophy Department of the University of Woolloomooloo' hat with corks on everywhere I go, lest I be mistaken for some queer drongo.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyVX3uJpqxc

//Suddenly... 'Australian' doesn't mean anything anymore.//

Well if all it meant before was not being an African Pygmy, Eskimo or sombrero wearer, have we really lost that much?

Can you define 'Australian' in terms of what 'Australian' is, rather than is not? And can you point out how it is different to being, say, Canadian or Irish?

//And our identity will have been erased, we'll just all be global citizens, the same as anywhere else.//

And that's a bad thing because...

Did your parents make you watch Star Trek while they gave you the Ludovico treatment?

Foxy,
Simon Tatz is not a name I am familiar with. Did a quick google and see he had something to do with the ABC and was an adviser to Rudd and Gillard. That alone would cross him off any list of people I should take note of their views. So the name does not impress me.

I am only interested in stopping those people from coming here that won't integrate and cause us trouble. But I generally think we should aim for zero net immigration, at least for some time.

I can't recall Jewish people causing us problems as a group. they seem to respect our laws and our society standards, so no problems there. No riots or fights or demos.

Most immigrants are like that with a few exceptions, Like muslims who are constantly wanting to change us, rioting with demands for beheadings and wanting sharia law. Also a significant number was involved in gang rapes of girls in about 20000 and tried to take over Cronulla beach as their own, until the locals put a stop to it. It seems that some also practice underage forced marriage. Am told that about 20% of muslims hold extreme views which is far too high for our societies safety.

Those groups who advocate FGM should also be stopped from entry. No Aussie born girl should suffer FGM. Irrespective of race or religion.

Those African groups that currently are a problem in Melbourne should also be stopped. Irrespective of their race or religion. We can well do without them.

More groups may come to mind but that will do to start with.

I did have Sri Lankans on my 'watch' list, but they seem to have now started to behave themselves, but will keep a bit of an eye on them.

Am told there are just as many Budderists here as muslims but we have no problem with them, That is good and Quite a few Hindus as well and again no problems exposed.

//I did have Sri Lankans on my 'watch' list, but they seem to have now started to behave themselves, but will keep a bit of an eye on them.

Am told there are just as many Budderists here as muslims but we have no problem with them, That is good//

Well gosh, it's so great that we have the intrepid Agent Banjo of the Keystone Intelligence Agency to protect us from all the evil Sri Lankans and 'Budderists' (presumably those people who still don't get the joke: Why is Budweiser like sex on the beach? Because it's f#@king close to water.)

I can once again sleep soundly in my bed at night.

Good evening to you JAYB...

Yup, that's about the size of it I guess. I worry about our grandchildren, what sort of world have we left for them, forever looking over their shoulder, that's the nature of terrorism...unease, suspicion, mistrust.

I often wonder if Muslims themselves could do more, in which to (try to) interdict their own. Even attempt to De-radicalise them, (their impressionable young at least) perhaps, by showing them that life in this country is pretty good, without the need to become, a Holy Warrior for Islam.

Hi there BANJO...

Indeed the SKAF brothers and/or gang, the leader sentenced to 55 years by Mr Justice Michael FINNANE, now back in private practice, reduced to 30 years on appeal, by the CCA (absurd). The trouble is BANJO, many of the public either don't hear the full circumstances, or couldn't careless about it, which is as bad I suppose. The SKAF leader told his gang, lets give it to her the Muslim way or similar, that small gem, emerged from Court documents. An horrific crime against this unfortunate young women - yet the 'Left' are still very much in denial? I dunno mate, I really don't.

"Can you define 'Australian' in terms of what 'Australian' is, rather than is not?"
Have to think about that one... In the meantime can you define 'Australian' in terms of what 'Australian' WAS, rather than is WAS NOT?"....
See how far we've come.
I don't remember carjackings...

"And can you point out how it is different to being, say, Canadian or Irish?"
EXACTLY; idiot.

"And that's a bad thing because..."
Excuse me? Did you just wipe your ass on my flag by chance?
Can't quite remember; you weren't born here were you?

It does actually seem to me like the crybabies that weren't born here don't feel included and want whinge about inequality or not feeling Australian or included by doing their best to systematically wreck whatever it was that made us Australian so they don't have to feel different.

Go ahead wipe your ass on our flag Toni.
Smear feces all over it if it makes you feel better.
I don't even know why I bother caring anymore.

If 'Race' has anything at all to do with 'Culture' then everyone is going to lose and our fight is pointless, because all cultures will be displaced to make way for the new culture of globalism and the global citizen.

Might as well find the most Australian thing in the country Toni and just go right ahead and smear a feces swastika on it.
Why the hell not?

AC,

Why on earth would Toni wipe his donkey with an Australian flag?

Equus africanus asinus would be just as happy with a wipedown with an old towel.

Sorry to be so pedantic, but we are talking in the Australian context, are we not?

Some of you lot seem to misunderstand a few simple facts.
All peoples who migrated here can be divided up like this;

Almost all European immigrants have wanted to fit in and with
intermarriage most of them did just that.

The Chinese want to live the same as we do and fit in, but there is a
tendency for less intermarriage.

The Jews have a policy of fitting in with the rest of society but
they have a policy of not intermarrying. Non Jews are not encouraged
to become part of their religion.

The moslems do not believe in multiculturalism. They do not want to
intermarry unless the woman becomes a moslem.
Moslem women are not allowed to marry infidels.
They want all of us to become moslem OR ELSE ! (Koran policy)

Rather accurate don't you think ?

I've just come back to read a few of the latest
comments. I can see that feelings are beginning
to get rather heated. I think it's time for me to
leave this discussion. I don't like confrontation.
Never have. Especially when it appears to be
getting nasty.

I wish all of you gentlemen a good-night.
I no longer want any part of it.
Big mistake to have entered this discussion in the
first place.

Banjo,

I am not trying to discourage o sung wu; I just suggested that he has no need to bother with the likes of Steeleredux. He is too good for that, as most of us with similar values are.

You are right. There are probably more people who are readers of OLO than posters. There is also the not-small matter of media monitoring. Politicians and all sorts of people get to hear about our conversations, and that is what's important, not the ranting of ignoramuses trying to win arguments.

You most certainly should continue posting. I have just finished watching an online interview by Mark Steyn of James E. Mitchell, author of “Enhanced Interrogation” about his dealings with the mastermind of the 9-11 atrocity, and the mindsets of Islamic maniacs. Given the shockingly gutless nature of Western elites and their total misunderstanding of Islam and its intent, we are in a lot of trouble.

Dear Foxy,

You are of course right, “It's a huge disservice to label people.”

Unfortunately I find myself falling well short of your quite reasonable standards. I have repeatedly referred to our friend as OLO's resident “pustule”. I'm loathed to intentionally disappoint but on this occasion I'm afraid I must. The moniker stays.

Dear o sung wu,

You wrote;

“You know STEELEREDUX you're becoming much more pugnacious lately, I wonder why?”

Possibly the gout? Anyway my friend between the two of us you were certainly the most pugnacious in the past. Perhaps it is my turn for a change.

Who are the powerful? Saudi Arabia is the beneficiary of arms imports from both the US and the UK among others. It spreads terrorism and a toxic brand of Islam across the globe. The Gillard government committed over 100 million dollars in aid to Indonesia to bring Saudi funded Madrassahs into the mainstream school system. Abbott for his own reasons withdrew that funding.

“As-Safir said Prince Bandar pledged to safeguard Russia’s naval base in Syria if the Assad regime is toppled, but he also hinted at Chechen terrorist attacks on Russia’s Winter Olympics in Sochi if there is no accord. “I can give you a guarantee to protect the Winter Olympics next year. The Chechen groups that threaten the security of the games are controlled by us,” he allegedly said.”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/energy/oilandgas/10266957/Saudis-offer-Russia-secret-oil-deal-if-it-drops-Syria.html

Not a peep from you?

You claimed “guys like STEELEREDUX want to do is support refugee immigration and Islam per se”

Conflation of refugees and immigration? Not surprising but wrong. As stated I do not support our current levels of immigration but I certainly do support our refugee intake and it is something that makes me proud to be an Australian.

I am dead set against organised religion of any stripe including Islam. Leaders of the Christian faith have buggered their way through thousands of Aussie kids and utterly destroyed lives and families. As a measure of damage to Australians the the Islamists have a lot of catching up to do. A pox on both their houses.

Jayb

“Anti-Colonial: the last time I looked we have never been invaded by a Moslem country.

You haven't looked at the EU or the UK lately?”

We are not the UK nor the EU. Left-over colonials yearning for a motherland in Europe, are free to return. If refugees fleeing conflict are an invasion, does that make January 26th invasion day?

Leaving aside the “hindsight” whitewash, even our PM accepts Iraq 2 was a tragic error. Yet no official apology for our role in that error or any acceptance of any type of responsibility. Deaths caused by wars started with false Intelligence beliefs, whoops! Deaths by false religious beliefs, terrorism!

I remember being a kid.
We had 5 channels 7,9,10 ABC and SBS.
We were more united, somehow.
And we had our own identity, different to everyone else.
When Australia won the America's cup, I'm sure the whole country was watching...
And I'm sure at least half the country was tuned in every week watching Comedy Company, or Hey Hey it's Saturday.
Was it just the TV, or was it was more than that?
Whats different now?
Technology's changed everything.
Everyone's riled up fighting amongst themselves over some stupid pc argument, some perceived offense, infringement of speech.
Everyone is facing off with everyone ever every issue imaginable.
Our country's become a madhouse.
And you know I'd be a lot less critical of it all if I could say that it's just 'normal progress' or 'a sign of the times'.
But it's not, it's all engineered.

Globalist billionaires are deliberately funding leftist groups to push their global agenda.
In America, Obama even made Taxpayers fund Soros's operations of civil unrest.
It's a well organised and highly funded operation to destroy nations national identities.

//But it's not, it's all engineered.//

By hybrids of humans and lizard aliens from the constellation Draco. Damn those wicked Reptilians!

http://www.davidicke.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/get-attachment-199.jpg

http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2013/10/how-spot-reptilians-runing-us-government/354496/

http://www.davidicke.com/category/271/reptilian-agenda

http://www.express.co.uk/news/weird/768800/David-Icke-queen-shape-shifting-lizard

http://www.collective-evolution.com/2013/10/17/david-ickes-theory-of-the-reptilian-human-hybrid-apocalypse/

http://www.toptenz.net/10-things-you-should-know-about-the-reptilian-conspiracy-theory.php

Ah yes, Armchair Critic. How times have changed!

When I was a budding conspiracy theorist, it was the right-wingers plotting all that evil stuff. It made sense, after all. Especially where globalisation is concerned. I mean, right-wingers do tend to be the ones who own most of the large corporations which benefit from the exploitation of desperate workers in impoverished third-world countries, and what better means to achieve such exploitation than with globalisation?

But back to our Reptilian overlords, though, I do find it rather odd that you’re still here to investigate and expose what has REALLY been going on.

I mean, accidents DO happen, after all. Not that I know anything, of course. Oh, NO! But, well, let’s just say that I have connections, and your efforts don’t go entirely unnoticed.

http://imgur.com/elVdXiW

Foxy bows out, yet again running from the too hard questions.

AC,

You are right. We live in sorry times, when everything 'needs' to be changed for the sake of change. Even our native language is shockingly abused through ignorance or carelessness. SR, who deems it clever to refer to people as 'pustules' advised that he was "loathed" to do something, when he should have said he was 'loath' (pronounced loth). People used to know how not to make themselves look ignorant twits; now they go out of their way to demonstrate that the ARE ignorant twits.

To continue on the theme of ignorant twitism, let's hark back to the foolish belief that Muslims are just like other migrants of the past. That they will eventually fit in with love and devotion.

99.9% of normal people will do everything they can to fit in with their fellow citizens and friends. Not so with Muslims in the West. They deliberately and provocatively wear headscarfs (if they are female), and many of the males wear long 'dresses' and scull caps, really making themselves, different from the rest of us. They make a lot of noise at prayer. They overflow into streets bobbing, bowing and moaning to Allah in broad daylight, in public. You cannot get more un-Australian, un-Western than that. It's all 'look at me, look at me' with Muslims. They actively WANT to be different; they do not want to be like us, because the hate us. They proselytise, something that embarrasses even staunch Christians and those of other religions who regard faith as something private and separate form public life and activity. Even atheists don't go around banging on about their lack of faith unless they find themselves in an appropriate forum.

Islam, which covers everything from personal hygiene to macro-economics means EVERYTHING to Muslims. Any 'apparent' Muslim who denies this is not a real Muslim, and would do himself and everybody else a favour by dropping the charade that they have been brought up with. Of course, they could be part of the Islamic ethic that demands that Muslims lie about Islam until they, the Muslims, are in the majority, at which time they can demonstrate to ignorant infidels the real facts of Islam and its goals.

None of the rottenness of Islam is a secret. It's all there for even the dumbest Westerner to know, but most of us are like rabbits caught in the glare of a spotlight, unable to defend ourselves, meekly waiting to be converted, killed or enslaved.

ttbn,

Could you give me an example of a change that has been made or proposed purely for the sake of it? I can’t think of any.

<<We live in sorry times, when everything 'needs' to be changed for the sake of change.>>

If you can’t, then don’t waste a post telling me that. Just don’t respond and I will take that as your humble retraction.

<<Even our native language is shockingly abused through ignorance or carelessness.>>

“SHOCKINGLY abused”?! [Emphasis added] Sounds serious. Please, tell us more.

<<SR, … advised that he was "loathed" to do something, when he should have said he was 'loath' (pronounced loth).>>

*Gasp!*

Scandalous!

And the pronunciation to boot. I like it. Those lucky enough to be here watching your linguistic skills in action must be awestruck by your obvious talent.

This reminds me of the time you insisted that I should have said, “I and others”, instead of, “myself and others”, to distract from the fact that you had no rational argument to back your assertion.

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=7084#217280

It seems that when you have nothing intelligent or relevant to say in response to those with whom you disagree, you try to find a typo to use as a distraction. And if you can’t find one, you make one up.

If you’re going to be a grammar Nazi, you could at least get your grammar right.

<<People used to know how not to make themselves look ignorant twits; now they go out of their way to demonstrate that the ARE ignorant twits.>>

You’re telling ME?! You even inserted your own typo there in that last sentence of yours just in case it was unclear to any of us who the twit was.

Dear Is Mise,

Lets take a look at the situation here.

Any attempt to represent the difficult and complex
issues we face as a nation in a more considered
way is too often threatened by the desire of some
here for short, simple, uncomplicated bite-sized and
easily assimilable messages that require little
thought, little reflection, little discomfort.

The net result ends up being a discussion where many
are not attuned to complex issues, and are not just
disinterested but hostile to having to consider them.
They want issues to be simple, or at least simplified
and the solutions straight forward and uncomplicated.

It is far easier to think in terms of general categories
if only to enable them to make sense of the world by
simplifying its complexity.

I'm leaving not because I'm "running away" - or the
questions are too "hard." Nah. I'm leaving because the
issues are too complicated for some to comprehend and
I can see that I'm wasting my time. I've got better
things to do.

Cheers.

Foxy,

If you've got better things to do why did you come back?

Dear Is Mise,

To explain the false remark you made about me.

Dear Armchair Critic,

You wrote;

“I remember being a kid. 
We had 5 channels 7,9,10 ABC and SBS.
We were more united, somehow.
And we had our own identity, different to everyone else.
When Australia won the America's cup, I'm sure the whole country was watching...
And I'm sure at least half the country was tuned in every week watching Comedy Company, or Hey Hey it's Saturday.
Was it just the TV, or was it was more than that? 
Whats different now?”

I will tell you what is different now, some bloke can write a post reminiscing about Australian identity and then trot out this very American dribble straight afterward.

“Globalist billionaires are deliberately funding leftist groups to push their global agenda.
In America, Obama even made Taxpayers fund Soros's operations of civil unrest.
It's a well organised and highly funded operation to destroy nations national identities.”

If you deliberately did this to make your point then well done, if not then oops.

Goddamit, Armchair Critic! Why couldn’t you have just kept your big mouth shut, eh?

Yeah, that’s right. They know who you are now. What? Did you think you could hide behind that pseudonym of yours forever?!

They know ‘Critic’ isn’t your real surname, Armchair. They know that now. They were always going to figure that much out. You don’t actually think the Left are stupid enough to think that ‘Critic’ is a real surname, do you?

But look, I’m here to help. The Left don’t know I’m doing this. Not Foxy, not SteeleRedux, not Toni Lavis. Nobody. They’d have me killed if they ever found out.

So, print this post out of mine and then destroy your computer. That’s right. Smash it into tiny little pieces, and then catch the 4:45 to Mumbai (Flight two-zero-niner). When you arrive, there’ll be a stick-thin Indian man standing there with flies buzzing around his head holding a cardboard sign that reads, “Armchair Smith”.

He’s your guy.

*Sigh!*

Why’d ya have to do it, Armchair? Why? Us Lefties had such a good thing going there for decades under our leader, George Soros. But then Brexit happened, then Hanson, then Trump. All these dummies. Heck, it’s looking like we’ll only JUST manage to stop Wilders.

The New World Order… all coming apart at the seams, and it all just happened to start after you appeared on OLO. Co-incidence? I think not.

You couldn’t help yourself, could you? You just had to expose our impossibly-well-coordinated and improbably-evil attempt to inflict tolerance, peace, a clean environment, and at least one meal per day onto every person on the planet. We set up the UN; we even had the universities - literally millions of man-hours poured into fudging figures in those ivory towers to make it look like CO2 trapped heat and that tolerance was beneficial to a society; and all for nothing now.

Obviously our chemtrails and vaccines never worked on you.

Shi-! They’re coming.

Remember - destroy your computer and don’t ever buy another one again.

I’ll see you in Mumbai...

STEELEREDUX...Gout will do it. You seem to imply that I could be somewhat pugnacious? Heaven forbid, there's ne'er an aggressive bone in my buggered old body STEELE. And your references to Saudi Arabia have no contextual relationship, when discussing the precise issues of this topic.

What I did address, was a theme raised by our valued colleague BANJO, in essence; is there a furtive scheme afoot to 'Islamize' Australia by stealth? A worthy and topical subject I would've thought, given the recent events at Punchbowl High and the insidious proliferation of terrorism per se.

You say you support our refugee intake. Who are these refugees specifically. Christian minorities, Muslims or both. Why isn't the super rich Muslim Nations of the Middle East, accepting and assisting their fellow Muslims who happen to be refugees. Seems to me, the West does all the heavy lifting when it comes to providing succor for refugees, Islamic or otherwise. And, some of these Islamic refugees, choose to show their gratitude by attempting to extirpate our values; our way of life; and our Christianity. And that's morally wrong.

Would you accept further intakes of Islamic refugees STEELEREDUX. If so, would you insist they come from Christian minorities? If you'd accept any Muslim, rather than being more adroitly selective with your choices, you'd run the risk of getting it wrong. I might point out you'd be a odds too with many of my former colleagues (albeit we're 'Dinosaurs'). Though it doesn't matter I suppose, but it's down to them who have to clean up the mess, when government(s) get it wrong, and need to apprehend the offenders Beside; they shouldn't whinge, they get a massive Pension from the lamentable NSW Taxpayer, if they live long enough.

OSW: I often wonder if Muslims themselves could do more, in which to (try to) interdict their own.

That will only work while the % is below 4%.

AC: “Globalist billionaires are deliberately funding leftist groups to push their global agenda.
In America, Obama even made Taxpayers fund Soros's operations of civil unrest.
It's a well organised and highly funded operation to destroy nations national identities.”

Steelie: If you deliberately did this to make your point then well done, if not then oops.

The problem there is that AC is spot on. Your problem, like Foxys , is your world is full of Sugar Plumb fairies, all dancing around moslims.

OSW: You say you support our refugee intake. Who are these refugees specifically. Christian minorities, Muslims or both. Why isn't the super-rich Muslim Nations of the Middle East, accepting and assisting their fellow Muslims who happen to be refugees.

They’ve already answered that. “They might be Terrorists sneaking in.” Anyway, it’s all part of the Jizya Tax non-moslims have to pay to moslims for them to allow non-moslims to live.

Foxy: I take people as I find them and so far, I've been very fortunate. Most people have been decent human beings.

So far & as individuals not as a mob like denmonstrated in Melbourne the other week. It’s starting just like the UK in Birmingham Manchester, London, Luton, Rotherdam, etc. “Down with Democracy”, ” Sharia Law for Britain,” “Kill the Kaffa, “

Foxy: I have enough on my plate just keeping up with my daily life.

Everybody, especially me, has sent you verse after verse pointing out just what the End Game the moslims are going to play.

Dear o sung wu,

Firstly it is probably best that we leave Banjo out of this. I'm not sure you are aware of the Book of Zion. It was published by a member of the Russian secret service discrediting Jews. Remarkedly effective it contained half-truths and outright lies like sacrificed Christian babies.

Banjo, in his own rather purile way attempts to emulate the same. Note his leading question;

“How many of the muslim fans of the NRL (Canterbury) have club jerseys with 911 printed on them?” Note he didn't claim it as fact, he didn't provide any evidence, just asked the question. As a former copper how would you view such a baseless question if you were to be asked it in court? Perhaps the reply might start with “The evidence suggests...”

Okay, where does that leave us?

You say Saudi Arabia has no contextual context. Rubbish. Of the very few radical islamists in this country few would not likely be one who hadn't consumed hardcore religious propogandah produced and distributed from that country. If you would wish them to continue to have full access to second generation Aussie kids then keep the blinkers on mate. There are at least some of us prepared to take a stand.

You ask “is there a furtive scheme afoot to 'Islamize' Australia by stealth?”

Nope. Possibly a small core of diehards dream of it just like missionaries in China or some African nations. Our own hardcore right have a political leader who seeks a Putin style dictatorship for our nation. Not a lot of differences in my book. But the vast bulk of Australian Muslims just want to raise their children in a safe, democratic place.

You wrote;

“Who are these refugees specifically. Christian minorities, Muslims or both.”

Those with the greatest need shouldcome first, if that means a persecuted Christian minority ahead of others based on their circumstances then so be it but need should be the only criteria

G'day there JAYB...

'...just what the 'End-Game' the Muslims are about to play...'. My friend, that's a chilling prediction you're making, you know. Unfortunately I think you're right. All this is happening directly under our very noses, while we just talk 'n talk 'n still talk about it. As if we're utterly transfixed with fear by them, and don't know what it is, we have to do. Reminds me of that song, of the Vietnam era, by Red-Gum I think, "...and I was only nineteen..."!

OSW: by Red-Gum I think, "...and I was only nineteen..."!

A small part on my body is in the original clip. The close up of the Aboriginal bloke. Billy Coolaburra. He was sitting a big stump when the "Ship hit the sand", so to speak & I pulled him off it. That's why you only see my arm & shoulder. Later versions you only see Billy for a millisecond.

//The Left don’t know I’m doing this. Not Foxy, not SteeleRedux, not Toni Lavis. Nobody. They’d have me killed if they ever found out.//

Nay, Knight-Brother. As a Paladin I was honour bound to report your transgression to the Sinister Council. And they did give some consideration to killing you and Armchair.

But in their wisdom, the Council have decided to show mercy and spare you. Armchair already knew far too much prior to your indiscretion... it would not have taken him long to put the pieces together. The Council have decided that Armchair should be told the full truth, and offered a Squireship within the Order - Squired to you, of course. And should he refuse the Squireship than it shall be your duty to kill him, Knight-Brother.

Yes, Armchair, the entirety of left-wing political thought is just one great big conspiracy run by the Grand Master of our order, who you know as George Soros. But first, I think a bit of a history lesson is in order.

David Icke was not the first man to discover the true nature of the Reptilians. It was Merlin - George Soros to you - who first made that discovery...

.... As powerful a sorcerer as he was, he knew that the Reptilians were too formidable a foe to combat alone, and so he began the Order of the Noble Knights of the Left (Merlin is perfectly ambidextrous, but the first Lord Paladin, Arthur Pendragon, was a southpaw so Merlin named the order in his honour). They have been known throughout history by various names - the Knights of the Round Table, the Knights Templar, the Ancient and Enlightened Brethren of Free & Accepted Masons... all of these have been fronts for the Knights of the Left.

It has been our solemn duty throughout the ages to protect the world from the threat of subjugation and enslavement by the evil Reptilians. That's why Merlin has long tried to unite the world under a common banner, so that we might stand a better chance against our ancient enemy: united we stand, divided we fall - and Reptilians are masters of the divide and conquer strategy. That's why they like us all separated up into our little nation-states and at each other's throats all the time - it makes the conquest easier.

The Knights of the Left are hard-pressed to keep the enemy at bay, and they are growing stronger with every passing day. Unless the human race ceases their petty squabbling and infighting and come together to give the lizards a damn good thrashing, they might soon find a way to end our petty squabbling for us - through enslavement.

So why the cloak-and-dagger routine? Not everybody is ready for the revelation that our entire race is under constant threat from powerful alien beings. What do you think would happen if the entire world were suddenly made aware of that fact? Panic, anarchy, rioting, bloodshed and looting: that's what would happen. Most people just aren't prepared to accept that kind of news without the shite hitting the rotary air-circulation device.

... But you're obviously not most people, Armchair. Merlin has placed a powerful enchantment on the whole world which conceals the awful truth from most people, and causes them to dismiss the truth as nonsense when it is presented to them. But you are one of the few people who is not completely fooled by the spell: you always knew, somewhere deep inside, that things are not quite what they seemed - even if you didn't know exactly what was wrong. People with the mental strength to even partially overcome Merlin's mighty magick are just the sort of people the Knights of the Left need.

And so it has been decided that you may have the honour of joining the Order, serving as Squire-Brother to Knight-Brother Phillips. You will, of course, have to swear an Oath of Fealty to the Order, and uphold the Virtues of the Left at all times. And as a Squire-Brother, you're pretty much AJ's bitch until you graduate to Knight-Brother. But we all had to go through that when we were Squires... it builds character.

You can refuse, of course. But at this point you know too much, so if you don't join then I will have to dispatch Knight-Brother Phillips to ensure that you remain silent. Which would upset me, but a Paladin's gotta do what a Paladin's gotta do.

I'm lost for words...

//I'm lost for words...//

O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!

Oh c’mon, Armchair Critic. You’ve always known that leftism was nothing more than one big insincere façade to install communism worldwide. Isn’t that why you lot call us “watermelons”? Please don’t act surprised.

You want to know what ‘surprised’ is? I’ll tell you what surprised is!

‘Surprised’ is being passionate about environmental and social justice issues, only to later learn from some right-wing bozo that all you’ve really ever wanted to do was to internationally seize political power for the working class, through a social revolution, to expropriate the capitalist classes and place the productive capacities of societies into collective ownership.

And I don't even like communism. Go figure!

So you could only imagine my shock when I learned that about myself. I had no idea! That’s when I sold my soul to Soros. I mean, what was the point in fighting it anymore? I was a communist fighting for the New World Order, and I needed to embrace that.

I take it you missed that flight, too. That's annoying. Here I am, sweltering in the humid mountains of India, and you’re not even going to show! I even went to the extent of purchasing a safari suit and a pipe so that our first meeting would feel extra dramatic as you stepped out of Sandeep's limousine and we first made eye contact.

Well that's gratitude for you!

--

Thanks, Knight-Brother Lavis. I spoke to Soros earlier and, needless to say, he’s not happy.

As punishment, Soros is stationing me at the Australian Bureau of Statistics for the next month and will have me altering the crime and employment stats for asylum seekers to look better than they really are.

You’d better get back to work “homogenising” those temperatures too, by the way. Apparently, some hobo down the local pub has confused climate with weather again and realised that it was cold somewhere yesterday. Now Anthony Watts is about to break the news to the world and the Dear Leader ain’t happy about it. His eyes did that thing where his pupils become like vertical slits again.

Anyway, peace out.

Dear Toni, and AJ,

More please!

'Twas brillig, and the slithy toves
Did gyre and gimble in the wabe:
All mimsy were the borogoves,
And the mome raths outgrabe.

"Beware the Jabberwock, my son!
The jaws that bite, the claws that catch!
Beware the Jubjub bird, and shun
The frumious Bandersnatch!"

He took his vorpal sword in hand;
Long time the manxome foe he sought -
So rested he by the Tumtum tree
And stood awhile in thought.

And, as in uffish thought he stood,
The Jabberwock, with eyes of flame.
Came whiffling through the tulgey wood,
And burbled as it came!

One,two! One,two! And through and through
The vorpal blade went snicker-snack!
He left it dead, and with its head
He went galumphing back.

"And hast thou slain the Jabberwock?
Come to my arms, my beamish boy!
O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!
He chortled in his joy.

'Twas brillig, and the slithy toves
Did gyre and gimble in the wabe:
All mimsy were the borogoves,
And the mome raths outgrabe.

Hi there FOXY...

I've always acknowledged your superior competence in the written word FOXY, but your very last contribution has surely surpassed everything you've presented thus far. My only question therefore, what precisely does it all mean. Or is it some form of clandestine cipher, calculated to bemuse and confound dullards like myself, from teasing out the relevancy of all the material contained therein. In order I might better appreciate what it is exactly you're saying? Otherwise FOXY it's truly masterful, whatever oeuvre from which it originally materialized.

Foxy,

Lewis wud luv ya!

Dear O Sung Wu,

Thank You for your kind words however the words are not
mine they are Lewis Carroll's. The following link explains:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jabberwocky

I recognised the words when Toni Lavis responded to
Armchair Critic's remark "I'm lost for words," with

"O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!"

So I thought I'd enclose the poem for the heck of it.

My grandchildren love it - because kids love nonsense words
That's why Roald Dahl is so popular. As is Julia Donaldson's
"The Gruffalo". Kids love something different - and we're
all kids at heart. Who of us doesn't like to play?

I thought both Tony Lavis and AC were just so clever.

Dear Is Mise,

Bless your heart!

Hi there Foxy...

Thank you for your explanation FOXY. Actually I was wondering whether we've lost many of those brilliant and gifted 'wordsmiths' who've given us all many of those memorable poem's and verses. Many of which have emanated from the pens of Oscar WILDE, Henry LAWSON, Dylan THOMAS, and Dr. Martin Luther KING, together with many more, too numerous to mention.

It's amazing really how those brilliant authors or poets, can literally precipitate life on a single page. Images so vivid and clear dealing with human drama, comedy or even historical occurrences. All with the adroit use of some carefully selected passages, phrases, sentences and paragraphs. Often leaving the reader wishing for more, much more.

It would seem too, with the advent of our rapidly advancing technology, such as the Internet. Many of those preparatory (literary) skills that've always been an obligatory requirement, in order for one to begin writing or composing, have become somewhat redundant by the advent of our trusty computers. I feel they have to a certain degree unfortunately, what do you think?

FOXY, I sincerely hope your last cardiac medical procedure, proved totally successful, and your dear Mum is still enjoying herself (under the circumstances) while she's in care?

Dear O Sung Wu,

I totally agree with you. Today young people with all the
technology available to them seem to be less interested
in reading. However, I still insist on reading to my
grandchildren and buying them books. There are still so
many wonderful authors around. And my grandchildren
enjoy our story-telling sessions. They are starting to know
many of their favourite books off by heart.

As for my health? Thanks for asking.
I'm on new medication - so we'll see how it goes.
I'm due for review mid year.
My mother's health has not changed much. She has good days
and bad days. The most important thing for her is regular
visits and keeping her as active as possible. Which is what
I do. I've now been accepted by the other residents there
as well, and to me its like a second home. I find that I
get so much out of visiting mum and the people there.

How is your health?
I trust that you are also doing well?

To Everyone,
If you thought the Opening Statement by Banjo with a link to the news article in regards to the 'Punchbowl High School excluding Female Teachers' was concerning, wait until you hear what I'm about to reveal is going on at the Punchbowl Primary School.

"Frightened teachers at a Sydney primary school have revealed students are showing signs of extreme radicalisation at a young age, saying they have been traumatised by threats of beheading and other violent behaviour."

I honestly can't describe all the disturbing things I just read in this news article.
You all need to read it for yourself.

Teacher Quits After Primary School Students Threaten To Behead Her
http://au.news.yahoo.com/nsw/a/34663197/punchbowl-primary-school-teacher-says-year-5-students-threatened-to-behead-her-kill-her-family/#page1

There is now no denying that 'Islamification' is putting Australian citizens including children at risk of harm.
The left will try to argue otherwise, but they essentially have no leg left to stand on.
It's time we collectively stood up against this trend.

Who here would would give blind support or turn a blind eye and allow innocent Aussie kids to be harmed?

Identify yourselves now, or forever shut your mouths on the subject.
I can't help it that I'm disgusted by what I just read; every normal person should be.

AC,
Yes, I saw that article and was waiting for more info to come out, as there must be more teachers that know far more.

My suggestion is that you start a new thread because the story shows that the radicalization starts at home. Remember the woman with the baby in the pram holding the sign that advocated beheadings.

So much for MODERATE muslims

Hey Banjo,
I'm not sure if Graham prefers if we only have on thread going per topic.
I can see that it might be worthy of it's own thread, but since you already saw the article before me and began this topic I'll leave the decision to start a new thread up to you.

We definitely need more information on this case.

It seems that Punchbowl Boys High School has been having
problems that go back a few years. Why were these problems
not dealt with earlier? How vast were these problems?
According to the NSW Education Minister Rob Stokes,
he gave assurances that the state's schools were safe
and that Senior Police had informed him that the risk
of behaviour linked to radical Islam was "absolutely
minimal".

However, be that as it may there are still questions that
need to be asked.
Why were the Punchbowl Principal Chris Griffiths and his
Deputy Joumana Dernaoui removed only recently (March 2)
when there were concerns over their resistance to a program
to prevent extremist Islamic behaviour?

Our schools need to be safe - both for students and teachers.
Teachers deserve respect for the way they have to deal with
the complexities of all children in their care.

Inappropriate behaviour should not be tolerated.

We can only hope and trust that under the new Principal,
and with the help of the police things will be brought back
to normal. This appears to be a community issue - with
children at the school displaying learned behaviour.
Parents need to become involved.
This must be addressed and quickly.

Foxy: Senior Police had informed him that the risk of behaviour linked to radical Islam was "absolutely minimal".

A directive from above for Political Correctness sake. We don't want to upset these moderate moslims that will force them to turn into Jihadi.

Foxy: Parents need to become involved. This must be addressed and quickly.

Oh, these moderate moslim parents will become involved alright & demand that Islamic Rights prevail, or else. As we see in the EU & the UK, courtesy of Ifitkhar.

Dear Jayb,

We visit my mother in the dementia wing of her nursing
home. You display all the symptoms of the residents we
meet there.

G'day JAYB...
Your comment to FOXY, concerning senior police briefing the Education Minister, Mr Rob STOKES, '...that the risk of such behaviour being linked to radical Islam, was absolutely minimal...'; being a directive from on high, may well be on the money?

Nevertheless there are some coppers once they reach the dizzy heights of senior executive level, become all 'touchy feely' and have a severe attack of Political Correctness? No doubt there're few who've been strongly cautioned not to stir the pot. It's very much a political organisation I'm afraid JAYB.

I had this really great boss when he was at Det.Insp level. However on promotion, he purchased himself a new 'mess-dress kit', a nice leather briefcase (for the purpose of transporting his banana sandwich), and was clearly transmogrified onto a much loftier plane of sagacity and mastery. Thus becoming one of the few in the job to be truly enlightened. Never again would we hear any more expletives and blaspheming that previously poured forth from his mouth? At squad briefings, we all thought he'd experienced some religious moment?

Foxy: You display all the symptoms of the residents we meet there.

Not nice Foxy, but I know you really didn't mean it. It's what happens when the obvious hit's home.

I know what you mean OSW. They go to a PC Class & learn how to speak BS. Never ever did one of them, did you?

Hi (again) JAYB...

No, I never did do a class in 'bullock excrement' and that's despite the volume of the stuff proliferating the joint. Perhaps I should've done, maybe I would've got greater promotion prospects had I done so? The job was/is so full of groveler's and crawlers, to the extent it got so bad, they called it a 'slugfest'? The CIB under one particular A/C, got renamed 'Cockroach Castle' due to the need to be especially servile and obsequious to that particular A/C whenever you needed something from him. Not good for morale I can tell you.

Dear Jayb,

Of course I didn't mean it.

Slightly off topic, but still relevant.
16 y/o German Girl Talks About Muslim immigration, Destruction Of Her Own Country
http://youtu.be/uGfP8CyJAhg

This is what they will do here if they have a chance, and they already have their foot in the door.
How many of you want to try to argue this girl is racist?
Poor girl is too damn frightened to even use the word 'immigrant'.

Obviously this is what the leftists want for everyone's kids.
They never seem to argue differently.

- Coming Soon To A Suburb Near You -

AC,
What the young lady says is entirely relevant to this discussion. The sad thing is that the German pollies will ignore her, as they do here.

In Aus we cannot even discuss immigration issues because the 2 major parties have a deal for it not to be debated. That deal needs to be broken and the whole immigration and nuslim matter requires public debate. It should be the ONLY matter of importance at the next election.

The 2 major parties have shown themselves to be totally ignorant of the consequences of the present road we travel. Our grandkids will pay the price of our current folly.

Hey Banjo,
Well it wasn't specific to Australia, but the issue of Islamification is.
I actually listened to another interview with a woman from Germany last night, as well as coming across many more similar videos to the prior one from European individuals arguing against the MSM narrative.

Jeff Rense & 'Meral' - The Horrifying Muslim Destruction Of Germany
http://youtu.be/FBLAgSEkcGk
It goes for 51mins.

Some of the points made in that video, really hit home to me how people from other countries are all saying the same thing, similar to what the people in this country are saying; only the voices here are not as loud, or not as silenced.

Did you hear how the girl said Germans are now calling Angela Merkel Fatima?

It does seem to be a formula occurring in all the '2 Party System' Western democracies.
A specific plan or agenda being enacted for global government.

Why else would would the leaders of western democratic nations ALL sell their citizens out for this Globalist agenda, if they weren't being offered a seat at the table in that global government.

I know many still probably think I'm nutty, but I challenge them to come up with a more reasonable explanation.
Are they trying to say everything in the world is happening 'by accident but in unison country by country' and that Soros is a figment of everyone's imaginations?
To think that would be entertaining the 'irrational'.

I think the left just have hands over their ears yelling "LaLaLaLala".

For some people there could clearly never be a Muslim who was
acceptable, no matter how moral, peaceful and productive.
And when Muslims react to consistently being alienated,
and become radicalised these same critics blame the
Muslim religion and not their own actions and behaviour
that so greatly contributes to the problems.

Foxy: For some people there could clearly never be a Muslim who was acceptable, no matter how moral, peaceful and productive.

The productive bit I agree there are some that are productive. As for Moral & Peaceful, I stand to disagree. The Koran demands the killing of anyone who isn’t a moslim or refuses to convert once they gain control. How is that Moral or Peaceful. (Any Islamic Nation)

Foxy: And when Muslims react to consistently being alienated, and become radicalised these same critics blame the Muslim religion.

So, what you are saying is that it’s our fault that they Radicalise. Just because we criticize their Sharia Laws & Customs like FMG, Wife Beating, Beheadings, object to being killed if we refuse to convert, point out their favourite Prophet was a Camel Train Robbing Paedophile or question their idea of women’s Rights.

If so, then I demand the same Right to Radicalise & blow some moslims up if I feel I been insulted by them demanding I convert to Islam.

Being insulted works both ways, doesn’t it?

Dear Jayb,

Give it a rest.

//If so, then I demand the same Right to Radicalise & blow some moslims up if I feel I been insulted by them demanding I convert to Islam.//

Yeah, you say that... but I bet you're all talk.

If told you in my next post how to effectively procure, prepare and utilise thermite in order to burn a big f&^king hole through anything that pisses you off, would you put your money where your mouth is and use thermite to melt Keysar Trad's engine block into the tarmac? Or are you too soft in the cock?

TL: Yeah, you say that... but I bet you're all talk.

Errr... I've already got my 2.5, but I'd have no problem adding to the score, if they'd let me.

TL: would you put your money where your mouth is and use thermite to melt Keysar Trad's engine block into the tarmac?

I'm already proficient with Thermite Welding.(Ex Railway; Fitter/Turner/Welder/Electrician/Carpenter). What's your problem?

I watched 60 Minutes on Sunday evening about
Punchbowl Boys High School and the problems
there. Then I read an article on the web where
on reader had this to say:

"If only we could educate our young people about the
power and joy of nature, science, technology, agriculture,
et cetera and about the benefits and obligations of modern
democracy and law."

"We need to give these young people a chance to earn and
create and belong and rejoice, not through religion but
through employment (as barristers or baristas) and literacy,
mucis, arts, exercise, sport ..."

That is what our schools should be doing - and bringing
parents and communities on board as well.

It's worth a try!

Foxy: "If only we could educate our young people about the power and joy of nature, science, technology, agriculture, et cetera and about the benefits and obligations of modern democracy and law."

All sweetness & light, flowers in my hair, dancing with the Daisy's naked in the Forest. Ahh yes, the 60's, I remember those days. What a wonderful dream it was. Then, of course, we grew up & joined the real World. But I agree, these things are most important in todays World.

Foxy: "We need to give these young people a chance to earn and create and belong and rejoice, not through religion but through employment (as barristers or baristas) and literacy, music, arts, exercise, sport ..."

Foxy: There ideas on education;
Literacy = Koran,
Music = Definitely "NO," Infidel #%^$@#!
Arts = Bomb making,
Exercise = Military style Confidence Course,
Sport = Blowing up Shopping Centres full of innocent people.

Unfortunately, there Islamic religion takes precedence over all of those Subjects. If koran says the World is Flat, it's flat. If all illness is caused by Bad Jinns then dancing, waving smoke with a feather & praying is the cure. Women are to be kept in the house, barefoot & pregnant, unable to read or write, then that's what should happen. We are all just Infidels & our time is coming to an end.

This is what the Parents, Teachers & Students of this School insist is a good education. Welcome to Jihadi High.

Dear Jayb,

For some people sadly there could clearly never be a
Muslim who was acceptable, no matter how moral, peaceful
and productive.

Have a nice day.

For some people sadly there could clearly never be a Muslim who was acceptable, no matter how moral, peaceful and productive they pretend to be for the moment.

Dear Jayb,

If the words you speak
appeared on your skin
Most people would avoid you.

It's really hard to criticise Foxy.
It's hard because traditionally the good, wholesome, kind, moral and decent people were the real backbone of this nation.
But I'd be lying if I didn't say that I though these people through being passive are doing more harm than good at this time.

'The Kumbaya Brigade'
They have this belief that everyone is going to sit around the campfire happy and content at the end of the day and honestly I think we've become such a mixed bunch the concept is now totally irrational.

Tell me Foxy, in your world are all the dead, slain innocent people who died at the hands of these maniacs sitting around the campfire too?

When I see those like Foxy play down the threat, I think of the Aussie primary school kids being accosted by their Muslim counterparts or innocent people attacked by machetes and think that people like Foxy only create a political barrier for those that would stop such practices and intervene.

I told you all long ago that I wouldn't just blame the Muslims,
That I would instead blame the people that allowed them here.
And I'm real sorry to say this Foxy, but that's people like you.

But we do all know you're a kind and decent person.