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Pauline. The giant slayer

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SR,

It is amazing how you progressives continually cock it up.

Aus Post and NBN are 100% government owned and so have not been privatised, and are thus examples of government owned monopolies that perform badly. It is a truism that privatised organisations become more efficient, with employees being more productive and often better remunerated, providing customers with better and cheaper services.

A good comparison of this is the privatisation of the Commonwealth bank that not only provided the Labor government with a huge financial payout that benefited taxpayers, and went on to become a successful company, compared to the collapses of the Victorian and South Australian State Banks.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Tuesday, 28 February 2017 10:43:54 AM
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STEELEREDUX...

I couldn't give a bugger whether Oz Post is Public or privately run, all I know the remuneration this man was receiving, when all I've seen is declining services is positively obscene ! I recall the days when we received two deliveries. A postage stamp was (generally speaking) affordable, our local Postie was more of a friend, then a letter carrier, and a Christmas wouldn't go by, without our Postie being laden with all manner of gifts and bottled beverages.

But of course we no longer have leaders with the capability and proficiency of John CURTIN, Ben CHIFLY, Bob MENZIES, Bob HAWKE, Paul KEATING, and John HOWARD ? Though, we do have the current incumbent, Mr Malcolm TURNBULL or Mr Wm. SHORTIN as a political alternative ? Wow.
Posted by o sung wu, Tuesday, 28 February 2017 2:02:04 PM
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o sung wu
Steady on ol mate you'll have a heart attack oops that's what the bastards want isn't it?
All the critics to get so worked up that they have a breakdown and cease to be a threat.
What a world we are going to leave our children.
There is a 17 year old quarter caste living near me and fit as a Malley Bull and when I asked him why he doesn't get a job at Maccas or like he said don;t want to work and I don't have to because it's not cultural.
Another local kid tells me that he doesn't have to work because he has ADHD or Asperger's or both and his mother tells me she gets the carers pension to look after him while he gets the disability pension.
Needless to say they dress in designer clothes and she drives a new 4x4. Am I angry?

Bring on Pauline. Address the pension rorts and the cash economy.
Check out the indigenous and refugee freeloaders playing poker machines in the pubs and clubs.
Why in Gods name did we ever work?
Posted by chrisgaff1000, Tuesday, 28 February 2017 2:54:48 PM
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yep the welfare mentality certainly adds to Greens/Labour voters (at least for those who bother to turn up to vote).
Posted by runner, Tuesday, 28 February 2017 3:02:53 PM
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Hi there CHRISGAFF1000...

G'day Chris, you have to wonder why it was we did all the OT Shifts, when most of it was gobbled up in additional taxes, paying into Super. Once again the taxman was gleefully standing just outside your front door ready to confiscate most of it for additional taxes. You pay tax on everything you earn each and every fortnight, and you (willingly) pay it again, when you draw down your fortnightly police pension, I simply don't get it Chris.

The only income they don't touch, is my DVA 100%. However should you be silly enough to invest it, they'll tax you on any income derived from that investment ? The old 'blood from a stone trick' I presume ?

Anyway take it easy ol' man, perhaps those two enterprising lads you spoke of earlier, might be prepared to teach you and I their lesson, on how to live comfortably on other taxpayers earnings?
Posted by o sung wu, Tuesday, 28 February 2017 6:39:51 PM
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Dear Shadow Minister,

Oh good lord, really?

I said “as government monopolies are privatised”. Both are going through the transition from publicly owned to being privatised.

If you don't have a decent answer then admit it rather than reach for yet another red herring.

And are you really going to make the case that privatising the Commonwealth Bank was good for Australians? Good luck on that one my friend.

Not having a bank owned by the government has meant giving the Big 4 licence to secure obscene profits stripped from citizens and businesses and it is a blight on our capitalism. The do not produce wealth rather skim it from the productive areas of our economy.

State premiers Bannon and Cain both followed Keatings financial deregulation edicts allowing the two state banks to adopt far less conservative lending practices and both came to grief as a result. Keating unashamedly used this as an excuse to privatise the Commonwealth Bank for which we got 7.8 billion dollars. For the 5 years up until the sale we receive a modest $100 million a year into the federal coffers from the bank. As soon as it was sold fees and charges skyrocketed and services were dramatically cut with the other 3 banks doing the same. The following 3 years saw profits over 5 billion dollars stripped from our economy to deliver to grasping shareholders and highly paid executives at the Commonwealth. There is little doubt that had it remained in public hands Australians would not now be forced to fill the bottomless coffers of the banking cartel with money stripped from ordinary from their household budgets and their businesses.

How about you try another example. The privatisation of the Australian Wheat Board perhaps?
Posted by SteeleRedux, Tuesday, 28 February 2017 9:13:22 PM
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