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Hasbeen,

We still speak a bit of the old lingo in Adelaide, mate.
Posted by ttbn, Sunday, 15 January 2017 11:42:14 AM
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Migration is a double-edged sword.
We could say we only want ones with skills; but what this effectively does is take the best and most talented out of their third world country and relocate them to the west.
So their country is now deprived of their most talented people, and the disparity between rich and poor nations continues.

In this way immigration isn't the solution, its actually the cause of the problem.

We could take the unskilled, but then the cost of welfare and other expenses falls unfairly on the taxpayer at a time of significant existing debt.
You're effective asking existing Australian taxpayers to carry the burden of immigrants whilst at the same time accepting a reduction in their own services and an increase in the nations debt.
Funds are relocated towards the costs of immigrants which would otherwise normally be spent on services for existing Australian's.
Like older Australians for example.
When they die on a hospital waiting list, at least they can be glad they helped a foreign family with kids get a free handout.

Question: No one can say Baby Boomers didn't work hard for this country.
They don't make em like they used to.
But as caretakers of this country did that generation take care of that which was their responsibility and hand the country down to the next generation in better condition that they found it?
Some might think Baby Boomers were asleep on their watch and have handed down a complete basket case.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Monday, 16 January 2017 1:40:04 AM
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We can always rely on the rabid right to put up an emotive argument against migrants, being doing it ever since Chinese came to the goldfields. In their 'minds eye' today, they picture hordes of men with big black beards, and turbans on their heads, being followed by their dutiful women, clad head to toe in traditional black hijabs, faces covered, 4 or 5 children following close behind, all strolling across the tarmac at Sydney and Melbourne Airports . With some kindly government official ushering them in with the words: "this way to 'Centrelink'!"

The above minds eye view could not be further from the truth, of what is Australia's mass immigration intake. In 2014/15 we took in 189,097, plus another 13,756 through the Australian Humanitarian Program. Some of the 13,000 odd could possibly fit the above emotive rabid right description. However, the vast majority of the intake are classed as 'skilled immigrants' about 127,000 of the above, and are very valuable migrants to Australia. Another 60,000 odd are classed as 'family reunion' and do receive both government and family support, the rabid right can mount an argument against that class if they wish.

One group of temporary migrants, who are a valuable "export" earner for Australia are the 300,000 overseas students we took in 2014/15. They cost us nothing, but bring in plenty. Although I must say I do get frustrated when they get on the bus and stall the driver wanting to know if "this bus go UTS," but hardly an argument to kick them out.

No matter what, the rabid right will continue to live the lie, and never find a taxi rank in Fairfield, why not try the train station, or move to Adelaide and converse with the like minded in Jabberwocky.
Posted by Paul1405, Monday, 16 January 2017 5:52:23 AM
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Nothing rabid about it Paul.
Though I won't hold back char grilling those George Soros clones intent on wrecking every nation they get their little rat claws on, so I'll let you have that one.

Where shall we start, women with 4 or 5 kids?
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/treasury/parental-welfare-pays-more-than-work/news-story/5f4d825e0957e954fea4e13e7ff2fe26

Skilled migrants?
Which of these requires skilled workers?
McDonalds, KFC, Coles, Woolworths, Aldi, Red Rooster?
Please explain.
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/national/maccas-looks-overseas-for-staff/news-story/812a7734dc07c4f2a4211f2b02152cbf
http://www.mathersons.com.au/exploitation-of-457-and-417-visa-holders/
"The workers stated that they viewed their travel to Australia as a “one-way ticket” and that they were upset that the company had not followed through on their obligations."

457 is not a job, its a relocation plan.

We could go back 70 years and take a look at the white paper on employment and ask what happened?
http://www.billmitchell.org/White_Paper_1945/index.html
They got us all working and fighting for a war, but when it's just about the nations citizens that's not important anymore?

What did we get from the war except half of Europe taking up residence?
And Jews reminding everyone how hard done they are when we were on the side that liberated them and helped them to start a nation?
- But at least they did not come here expecting a handout.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/data-shows-migrant-welfare-clusters/news-story/81257effae73e55cc5e5c9f231711a1e

Many of you see migrants in an exploitation sense anyway.
Work our fields, Work our hospitals, Di Natale hiring full time nanny for $150 a week.

You need to understand something Paul, I have a fairly good BS meter.
Go pour a bucket of water over your head and face reality.
I think you've been in dreamland too long.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Monday, 16 January 2017 10:58:27 AM
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Seriously, its not enough to make us strangers in our own cities and kick us out of our own suburbs but you want to deprive our kids of jobs as well?
Have you seen youth unemployment figures?

Let me tell you something pal.
Ideals and solutions are two different things.
You can have all the good ideals you want, but that won't equate to solutions and better management of the nations issues.

People like yourself intent on turning our country upside down...
Really who needs terrorists?
Posted by Armchair Critic, Monday, 16 January 2017 11:08:56 AM
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Dear Paul,

The following link may be of interest to you:

http://www.themonthly.com.au/issue/2013/september/1377957600/christos-why-australians-hate-asylum-seekers
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 16 January 2017 12:12:29 PM
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