This all goes to show what a joke Americas so called democracy really is, to steal a phrase from the English establishment, as long as the winner is the "right sort of chap" it does not matter. Conservatives are now taking heart that there is evidence Trump is indeed the right sort of chap, and to steal another phrase and not some "loose cannon". Bravo, bravo. Trump may spill a few apples from the cart, but hopefully for them, never upset it.
Then again Joe is probably right, he will turn out to be a complete goose and they will have to get rid of him. That's saying something when you take a look at the gaggle of geese that have been elected US President, starting with George Washington.
Taking an interest in US election results is on a par with taking an interest in the result of, what was the winning margin for Bashar al-Assad last time he contested the Syrian Presidential race. Boring!
I would be totally disinterested in Donald Trump's Presidency, just as I was totally disinterested in his crappy TV program, having never watched an episode. Unfortunately I have to take an interest in Trump the President, as it seems they are going to let him put his finger on the button and yell, "your fired!" for real, and that worries me.
Then again I could be wrong, he could turn out to be a good President in the mold of a Jimmy Carter or George Bush, don't natter which one, take your pick.

Hey Paul,
Yes US democracy is a joke, no arguments from me.
But I think that is fairly true of just about all democracies.
I guess some are more of a joke than others...

If pollies make the rules for us, then we should make the rules for them.
They can't be allowed to make their own rules.
There's no real balance of power when making a distinction between 'us and them'.
So I think most democracies are just a fable, or a figment of peoples imaginations.

Iceland, (if I recall correctly) may have the democracy which is the closest to a real democracy.

I never watched Trumps 'The Apprentice' either.

Hi AC,
The election of what might me termed renegades in English speaking Western democracies is not new. The most famous election of such could have been the first Labour government in Britain led by Ramsay MacDonald in 1924, a rather short lived government. There was much consternation in the ranks of the establishment that the election of this new and unknown quantity called "socialists" could see the destruction of Capitalism itself, were these men Bolsheviks, as some believed. One interesting aspect, the new PM and his Cabinet had to be presented to the King, how would they act, like animals some thought, how would they dress. All was well it seems, Mr MacDonald and his band were quite cordial with the King, even coming attired in the correct morning suits.
From then on the Establishment realized there was not a great deal to worry about, or fear, with the election of Labour Governments, they were indeed the "right sorts of chaps" even if they did spill a few apples from the cart, but they never upset the cart.
The first national Labor Government elected anywhere in the world was that of Chris Watson in Australia in 1904, another short lived government.

Australia and America and Donald Trump could build an economic wall between the US and Mexico by teamng together and being innovative with productive water infrastructure.

Mexico once built 50 super seiner fishing boats but when completed there were no longer enough school fish left in the ocean for those ships to catch.

Try to understand the situation and type of development that could be undertaken.

Some super seiners have nets big enough to encircle the Sydney Harbour Bridge.
The ocean is a big place.

Trump business saw crowded houses and applied innovation by stacking apartments skyward.

Mexico is a big arid country like Australia.
Mexico however has a big population that has to be fed with affordable food.

Innovative water infrastructure can make arid country lush and productive.

Thriving farmland can take up nutrient waste presently being dumped in ocean waters including in river ecosystems.

Sewage and land use nutrient overload pollution waste in waters of Mexico and El Salvador and Peru are linked to formation of El Nino events that are impacting weather and climate even in Australia.

Donald Trump may well drain CO2 out of the swamp and realize its actually nutrient causing the damage, inclufing increasingly severe storm and drought damage.

Many Mexicans have fled their increasingly dry and useless farmland and moved to their cities and the US.

Imagine if Australia could lead the way by suggesting to Trump how IMF resourced water innovation in Mexico could also help make El Nino phenomena more natural once again.

Imagine if building productive and business and employment generating water infrastructure could help make the Mexican and US economies healthy again.

Surely the Australian Institute for Progress is not just about progress in Australia.

In haste in addition to my post above.

Some people seek data before considering opportunity.
Accordingly I submit the following link and indicate the Sea Surface Temperature Anomaly * February 1998, graph therein.

http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Features/ElNinoColor/

Despite text at the above link referring to nutrient from equatorial upwelling, I specifically point to the more intense and larger red area showing in the graph nearer the coast of Mexico to Ecuador, intensity that I submit is due to bonded nutrient overload/pollution in fresher surface water originating from rivers and coast of Mexico, Peru, and north western South America, not from upwelling alone.

Understanding El Nino phenomena is not just about politics.
Hopefully a businessman US President Donald Trump will not just ignore the situation or opportunities from solutions.

During the past month I have used a digital probe to measure temperature in algae plant matter water, and in adjacent plain water.
Results consistently show temperature sometimes up to 2c degree warmer in the algae water compared to the plain water.
The algae water is always at least a fraction of a degree warmer than the plain water, even just pre sunrise, 24x7.

I reiterate as in my previous posts on this OLO website.
Warmth in anthropogenic nutrient proliferated ocean algae plant matter was not measured and assessed in AGW, IPCC, Kyoto associated science.

To the point.

There is evidence of substance indicating dire urgent need to understand and reduce the sewage and land use nutrient load (pollution) presently entering ocean ecosystems and impacting water quality and weather and climate and animal protein food sustainability worldwide.

If anyone can prove the opposite then please speak up.

John C Fairfax.

JF Aus
Came across a couple of articles this morning that relates to your points of discussion.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-12-18/scientists-dig-up-the-dirt-on-northern-australia/8124142
Also this:
One Nation plans to resurrect Bradfield scheme to irrigate western QLD.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-12-18/one-nation-to-announce-36-new-candidates-for-queensland/8129680