I am still fascinated by the notion that race (Like sex/gender) is what you think it to be/want.
Forget science (Note ABC except where we are talking about something they agree with) if I think I am aboriginal/female, then I am! As long as I can get some other people to back me up apparently?
Isn't it great that we look down on people who worship rocks and animals and yet some people believe this nonsense.
The law was racist in allowing "Aboriginals" a get out card in our law. Hope Vicpol are not monitoring this or I could get my front door kicked down lol.

Reminds me of some Poms who started "jury trial" a few years back. If people claim to be insane a jury can say "not guilty" of murder. Or sent to Oz to be flogged to death by Christians. They teach Santa Claus to their innocent , abused children and a boxing kangaroo says "oy oy" and rabbits have chocolate eggs at Easter , just ask Woolies share-holders. Aboriginals have cards to pass through gates which lock them in for years.

'Terra nullius'. Nowhere in research on the settlement of Australia can this expression be found! It is "especially absent from reference works cited by the High Court....in its Mabo judgement....". This was revealed by Michael Connor in 2004 in "Erro Nullius Revisited".

He writes that "The phrase was unknown ..... to Australian colonists... and it was not referred to in colonial courts or the Privy Council... it was never used by the British government to explain their appropriation of New Holland. It was so new that it didn't appear in the first edition of the Macquarie Dictionary in 1981. It isn't in the Oxford Dictionary" As at 2004. (P.340, 'The Break-Up of Australia).

Also, 'terra nullius' does not mean land unoccupied; it means 'land without sovereignty' - land "lacking the attributes of statehood or nationhood". There was nothing illegitimate about British settlement.

You mean Aboriginals claim Terra Nullius and say they didn't exist? Yes all born here are Indigenous and we can walk into any house in Australia and take their animals , vegie patch and daughters for sex.
Posted by nicknamenick, Monday, 12 December 2016 8:42:31 AM

Well thanks for that bit of Rubbish Nick... Irony not one of your strong points is it... Yes Terra Nullius... you know the term right it is a generic term not one we just use these days re Australia and aborigines... I do hope you learn about Irony soon, then you might understand my point. I shan't be holding my breath though.

As for trespass, you do know there are laws about that right? Oh and theft right? And rape? Just saying, I mean you did post the most ridiculous rubbish. Please don't do it in future it just wastes my time and that of others.

"Wrong Foxy.... if there were people here before Aboriginals then they certainly were NOT the first people and their claims of "Terra Nullius" would be both hypocritical and wrong. Supporting and fostering this claim would be dishonest."
T800 how is this irony? How is it sensible ? Who are "they" : the earlier people , the Aboriginals or the British with the Terra Nullius law ?
Can you see that the law against theft applied to British taking Aboriginal property?

Can contributors please try to write coherently ? It takes me a long time to understand what Nicknamednicknamednick is on about, and then I realise he is trying to be clever, e.g.: " .... Yes all born here are Indigenous and we can walk into any house in Australia and take their animals , vegie patch and daughters for sex."

As somebody remarked, Nick, irony or humour or even sarcasm are not your strong points. Stick to what you really want to say and save other people's time. Life's too bloody short to waste on rubbish.

As for 'Terra Nullius', no, I haven't found any reference before Justice Blackburn's reference in the Nabalco v. Milirrpum case (the Gove Case) in 1971. Cook didn't use the term. Phillip didn't use the term. Nobody did until Blackburn. Then Brennan J. and others on the High Court used it in the Mabo case (1993).

And I'm not even sure if it means anything to do with sovereignty or a State: in Latin, it would suggest 'a population without a recognisable system of land ownership or property relations'. 'Res nullius' would be the term to use about 'an entity which does not seem to have a system of government'.

Did Aboriginal people have systems of land OWNERSHIP or property relations ? Land USE, yes, but land ownership ? Certainly, Murray Islanders did, since they cultivated the land and set up physical boundaries, lines of stones, etc., but, on the mainland, only some groups on the Cape did so.

British law recognised the rights of Aboriginal people to USE the land as they always had done. Of course, also in British law, the principle of 'adverse possession' kicked in: if land had not been used for fifteen years, it could be claimed by someone else. Even the Crown in Britain is not immune to this law. I don't know about other States but South Australia still recognises the right of Aboriginal people to make use of the land as they did traditionally. Of course, now, they have to apply before a Committee.

Joe