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Voluntary Euthanasia

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' I believe that if Jesus existed and is not a complete myth'

with all respects David f you can't expect to be taken seriously when you display such complete ignorance.
Posted by runner, Saturday, 10 December 2016 9:29:53 AM
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Dear runner,

I think you confuse your beliefs with knowledge.
Posted by david f, Saturday, 10 December 2016 10:35:15 AM
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DavidF,

Surely you are not denying the existence of Jesus Christ? You don't believe in his teachings, which is entirely your prerogative, but to deny his existence - a human figure of history, just like all of the other humans beings reported in his time of history, is more than a litle bizarre to me. You might as well say that nobody and nothing existed 2,000 years ago. Ignore all history. You have enjoyed a blissfully ignorant 91 years, it seems.

Foxy,

Yes, MRI's dont't lie, and your mother is probably happy, bless her. The medical profession is not high on my list of admirables any more. I have suffered a great deal of angst and unwanted stigma over the past two years because of a mis-diagnosis and the nannying of a know-all GP, who is going to lose my patronage when the time is right. I'm not into suing people just to gain money, but I will never trust doctors again. I am fortunately in the late Autumn of life where 'experts' don't hold the power over me that they used to.
Posted by ttbn, Saturday, 10 December 2016 11:49:31 AM
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Dear ttbn,

Thanks for your kind words.

As for doctors? We're certainly at their mercy that's
for sure. Hopefully I've made the right choices in
our GP and specialists. Our GP is one of those rare
creatures who still does home visits when needed.
I do try not to impose on him too much and only
use the home visit when absolutely necessary.
My mother is well looked after
in the dementia wing of her nursing home. Our GP
is her doctor as well. Daily visits
and our involvement in the home keeps us informed as to
her treatment. Families of residents there are very good
people and we all look out for each other.

I must say that I feel very fortunate to be living in a
country where we are provided with such excellent health
care. Of course our family does have private health cover.
We've always subscribed to it - and I find it most helpful
now - as the need arises.
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 10 December 2016 12:54:05 PM
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Dear ttbn,

I don't deny the existence of Jesus. He certainly may have existed. However, he may have been a legendary creation. I don't know. I don't think any of the miracles described in the New Testament ever happened. That is fiction. The Jesus described in the New Testament who produced miracles I am sure never existed.

http://www.nobeliefs.com/exist.htm

There is no definitive proof that Jesus existed, but possibly he did.
Posted by david f, Saturday, 10 December 2016 12:56:43 PM
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"Barbara Thiering wrote the book, "Jesus The Man:
A new interpretation from the Dead Sea Scrolls."
In her book Barbara Thiering presents her landmark
research into the Dead Sea Scrolls and the New
Testament. She provides a radically different history of
the life of Christ which sweeps away the miraculous and
superstitious elements associated with the origins of
Christianity." (Taken from the blurb of her book).

On page 390 - we're told that "Jesus, son of Joseph, a
descendant of King David through the Nathan line,
and of Mary. Jesus was conceived during his parents
betrothal period before their legal marriage, so was
regarded by the party of Hebrews as an extranuptial son
of Joseph. He was born in March 7 BC. For Hellenists in the
ascetic movement he was the legitimate David, and would
rule when the Kingdom came, either as an independent king, or
as a subordinate of the Herods...

It's an interesting book and well worth a read.
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 10 December 2016 1:11:47 PM
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