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Out in a storm

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On the east of Glen Innes is Washpool Gibraltar Park on the cliff edge. Drove up the escarpment there during a storm and the wind was twisting tall trees like helicopters and they came down onto the road.I stopped to try to clear the steep downhill lane but they fell too fast and close. But if they are all removed the hillside is gone....
Posted by nicknamenick, Thursday, 8 December 2016 12:17:59 PM
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Actually nick that is quite wrong. The story that trees stop erosion is one of the greatest furphies propagated by the green blob.

I am a great believer in the right number of trees in other than broad acre cropping paddocks. But too many merely render the land useless to man & beast. Land kept to low tree density by aboriginal fire stick was very productive, & is a good result to aim for in grazing, or simply beautiful countryside.

Over clearing makes land less productive in both very hot conditions & in frosty conditions, but no where as unproductive as the scrub promoted by those green blob activists.

On river banks it is even more important to minimise large trees. Every one of them will reach a stage where their resistance to flood water flow will mean they & the ground they grow on will be ripped out, & dispatched down river.

Removing the trees, battering the bank to a 45 degree angle, planting grasses such as Rhodes, then keeping stock off them will ensure no bank erosion. Trees will cause much erosion. I am quite happy to show anyone interested, proof of this in my local area.
Posted by Hasbeen, Thursday, 8 December 2016 2:24:09 PM
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It may be complicated by land clearing which increases run-off.
The Murray was easily navigable until river trees were cut for fuel and trunks fell in.( see sentence 1).
However , the Park near Glen Innes has an earth-cliff ( where Blue Mountains have granite , to suit trendy $1million dream homes). Wouldn't like to drive the roller coaster mud-slide up the mountain with storm rains lubricating the tar.
Posted by nicknamenick, Thursday, 8 December 2016 3:26:30 PM
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Just as a matter of interest, I was in the Coachman Coffee Lounge, in Tenterfield today having one of their excellent fish, chips and salad lunches when the subject turned to the recent storms.
The waitress told us that a customer, whom she named (but it meant nothing to me, not being a local); said customer had stopped to give way to a light truck and before the ruck could move a tree fell on it, fortunately without hurting anyone.

One never knows!!
Posted by Is Mise, Friday, 9 December 2016 11:05:57 PM
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Was it a Peppermint tree ? Did the truck have a chainsaw in it ?
"Conservation Status The New England Peppermint (Eucalyptus nova-anglica) Grassy Woodlands ecological community is listed as critically endangered. . Much of the ecological community’s known extent in New South Wales lies in the New England Tablelands Bioregion, between Tenterfield and Armidale, although its occurrence extends to the southern boundary of the bioregion..
Notify relevant organisations of roadside, rail and power easement locations that should be protected during construction and maintenance activities."

Roadside vegetation plays an important role in the conservation of Western Australia’s plants and animals. In heavily cleared landscapes, the vegetation in the road reserve acts as a wildlife highway, enabling animal movement between large patches of bush. It also provides essential habitat. In some areas rare animals, such as the Carnaby’s cockatoo, breed in the hollows of roadside trees. In addition, more than 50 per cent of threatened plants have at least one population on a roadside, and some species depend on roadside vegetation for their continued existence.

Phebalium bifidum can grow into a bush 1.5 metres high, however it is often seen as a small erect plant around 30-60 cm tall.. Only a few hundred of these plants are known to exist, mostly on road reserve and private property. The Capertee Valley is the only place in the world that this plant is found. The threats to this species include roadside management activities and clearing.

ROADSIDE AND CORRIDOR PROTECTION 1.0 Statement of nature and significance of vegetation to be protected Remnant vegetation along roadsides and within roadside corridors is significant for the conservation and recreation values it provides. Roadsides and areas within roadside corridors often contain trees, shrubs and native grasses which have largely disappeared from nearby land.
Posted by nicknamenick, Saturday, 10 December 2016 5:44:17 AM
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Is Mise, they blew a hole in the Adler 7 shot, shotgun yesterday, giving it a Category D classification. One of the Two Bobs. was on the 7.30 report threatening retaliatory action at the next election.
Save it for another day, when we clash over guns again.

Toni, be careful what you post, other children might be reading, and you don't need to be "oh so serious", lighten up with your choice of words and the use of @%$ symbols to get around the profanity rules. I like Is Mise, we often have little talks, as we have now over a number of years. Anyway he is a big boy and does a great job at defending himself when need be.
Posted by Paul1405, Saturday, 10 December 2016 6:26:32 AM
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