Pete, I agree we need shore based nuclear defence, but I still like cruise as an invasion defence. I don't of course have any objection to a bunch of small ballistic missiles, but I doubt we could ever get both, too expensive.

No fleet, or group of fleets could invade without air supremacy, reasonably achievable with our few numbers of aircraft, but a couple of dozen nuclear cruise missiles that could be launched when any fleet was within 50 nautical miles or so would make any invasion too risky for anyone to attempt.

I would rather see our patrol boats armed with missiles than subs. Even small things like the ship to ship version of the exocet would be more likely to be delivered if from a patrol boat, than from any sub of ours.

Personally I won't be voting for either of them.

Is this the really best that they can come up with over there?

When it comes down to it - here's one summary of the honesty of the debate -

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/20-lies-donald-trump-told-first-presidential-debate

Those watching the TV Debate included Taliban secretly viewing from Afghanistan, if NBC is to be believed. The livelihood (including revenue gained) of the Taliban's efficient insurgency will depend on who wins the Election.

27 September 2016 NBC News reveals:

TALIBAN WATCHES CLINTON, TRUMP DEBATE FROM SECRET AFGHANISTAN LOCATION

“...Taliban leaders tuned into Monday night's [US eastern time] debate between Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump from a secret location in Afghanistan, a spokesman for the militant group told NBC News.

"We were very interested in watching," said Zabihullah Mujahid. The spokesman added that "Trump ... [says] anything that comes to his tongue" and branded the Republican candidate as "non-serious."

He said the militant group's leadership had hoped that Afghanistan would feature more prominently in the discussion. "There nothing of interest to us in the debate as both of them said little about Afghanistan and their future plans for the country," he said…”

More see http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/2016-presidential-debates/taliban-watches-clinton-trump-debate-secret-afghanistan-location-n655276

I'm almost about ready to move from Trump supporter (or more precisely Hillary opposer) to 'none of the above' after Mike Pence's comments yesterday on Assad.
Trump needs to clearly state his foreign policy positions.

One problem I now foresee is that if Trump is not for removing Assad and wins in November they might kill him, allowing Pence to become President and thus continue their warmongering foreign policy.