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Hi Paul,

Fascinating. In your exchange with OTB above, am I right in concluding that, if he or anyone disagrees with you, they are somehow denying your right to an opinion ? And as well, if someone disagrees with you, they are Hansonites ?

Is that your best ?

And by the way, your latest post about introducing rabid socialism has been tried many times, and failed every time. Every time, and I'm writing that as a very long-term 'socialist'. It has failed every time. Not only that but every time, it has degenerated into fascism. Can you name any exceptions ?

Look for a better model, my friend, before you waste any more of your precious years.

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Wednesday, 17 August 2016 10:32:58 AM
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Joe, you are rather slow on the uptake, and a bit late, the reference to "rabid socialism" was first raised by Shadow Minister and we were simply having a discussion about it, not involving you at all. Nothing for you to concern yourself with.
As for OTB being a Hansonite, he very much has demonstrated his fervor for the woman's views. You seem to have no objection to Beach referring to me as a Trotskyists, are all Greens Trotskyists?
You seem cruise in from time to time and direct these little barbs of yours at me, feel free to do so.
Posted by Paul1405, Wednesday, 17 August 2016 12:25:03 PM
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Hi Paul,

Second time lucky. Bastard computer.

OLO is a sort of market-place for ideas and free expression, long may it prosper. So anybody can comment on anybody else's posts.

No, not all Greens are Trotskyites, and vice versa. Some are genuine conservationists and environmentalists. And of course, some are ratbags.

As with Trotskyites: As happens with purists who are in tiny numbers, they have to be opportunists, sucking up to all manner of other pissed-off minorities on the opportunist Left, as well as the extreme-Right such as ISIS.

A common feature of both Greens and Trotskyites is that they tend to think they are intelligent. So they tend not to learn much from life experience, simply becoming more paranoid with time, as their fantasies are dashed one after the other.

Cheers,

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Wednesday, 17 August 2016 1:07:57 PM
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I think we need to think a little more about the supposed benefits of foreign 'investment', and even the need for it in the first place.

The NSW electicity debacle is a prime example to start with. As it is, it supplies power at a reasonable price, jobs for Australians, and revenue to the Government. Sell it to foreigners, and if supplies power at ever increasing prices (viz: SA even before the renewable energy con), jobs, which could go to Chinese workers (thanks to 'free' trade agreements there is nothing to stop China bringing in its own workers) and NO revenue to the Australian government, apart from a one off payment that will be wasted anyway. Add to that the fact that the Australian government hasn't got the guts to see that China and and other foreigners pay a proper amount of tax.

The same applies to the selling off land, housing and any establised industry. The only instance where foreign investment serves Ausralia is when foreigners set up a NEW business that provides NEW jobs for unemployed Australians, or NEW housing which provides housing for Australians, or NEW infrastructure that the incompetent Australian government cannot provide because of its wasteful spending on rubbish nobody has asked for because it is not needed or wanted.

As it is, so-called foreign investment only benefits the foreigners. We are run by a bunch of idiots.
Posted by ttbn, Wednesday, 17 August 2016 1:37:14 PM
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Are we all so dense, that no one realises by 'selling' off all of our most precious and successful agricultural facilities; AND 'selling' off much of our more important infrastructure; AND permitting a 99 year lease to the Chinese Communist Government of the Port of Darwin, a vitally important strategic decision! Can't any or our politicians see the Chinese will ultimately OWN us, lock, stock & barrel !

We'd have to be the silliest, dumbest and most stupid country in the entire developed world ! No need for China to flex it's 'many' muscles, by holding 'exercises' in the South China Sea, when they probably already hold the front door keys to Canberra's Parliament House now, and don't forget the 'PM's Lodge' just up the road. I hear there are a number of eminent Chinese architects, who are already on site, looking at changing it's design, more in keeping with Classical Chinese underscore and composition, from what I've heard ? And what's next ?

I've heard whispers, the Sydney Opera House will have a new owner, sooner rather than later - Nevertheless, I don't believe for a moment the Chinese Premier, after extensive renovations, intends using this iconic structure as a summer residence for him, and select members of the Chinese Communist Party ?

Though, you never know ?
Posted by o sung wu, Wednesday, 17 August 2016 2:53:55 PM
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@Paul1405, Wednesday, 17 August 2016 12:25:03 PM

There is always a disconnect, a gulf, between what you believe other posters have written and reality.

However, you do often refer to your close relations and simpatico between yourself and your 'Aunty Lee Rhiannon'(Brown) and other Eastern Bloc Greens.

The internal Greens politics must be very much like the Spy versus Spy of Mad Magazine.
Posted by onthebeach, Wednesday, 17 August 2016 4:53:03 PM
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