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Will the past come back to haunt labor.

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SM,

Data mining software?

Not necessary when you've got a brain - and a little too much time to waste bantering with odd-bods on public forums.

Here's the brilliant Abbott attempting to fulfill his Churchill obsession:

"Tony Abbott's office floated sending Australian troops into Ukraine conflict, defence expert claims"

"Tony Abbott's staff considered involving Australian troops in the conflict between Ukraine and Kremlin-backed rebels during the MH17 crisis, potentially making them targets, a leading defence scholar says.

Former Australian Army officer James Brown, writing in the latest Quarterly Essay, described Mr Abbott's handling of defence as "the clearest case in recent times of a prime minister struggling to grasp the limits of Australian military power".

"On the MH17 response, Mr Brown said Australia's military planners "worked up options" for Mr Abbott to send as much as a brigade – about 3000 soldiers – onto Russia's doorstep to help secure the crash site, though this would have included a contribution of Dutch forces."

"But Mr Brown, who is now research director at the US Studies Centre at the University of Sydney, has also written that "further curious military proposals were floated by staff from the prime minister's office" including one that would have had Australian troops effectively involved in the conflict between pro-Ukrainian and pro-Kremlin forces.

"One of them – to commit uniformed Australian military logistics personnel to help the Ukrainians improve their own systems – seemed to ignore that this would make them legitimate targets for separatists fighting in Eastern Ukraine," he said."

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/federal-election-2016/tony-abbotts-office-floated-sending-australian-troops-into-ukraine-conflict-defence-expert-claims-20160612-gphbab.html#ixzz4BPLAMvAR

"Once again we have innuendo posing as fact from left whingers who happily ignore the $ms of corrupt money going to labor and the greens from the unions that expect obedience from Labor MPs."

Lol!...btw, Brian Loughnane is the director of Parakeelia....
Posted by Poirot, Monday, 13 June 2016 8:44:19 AM
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Parrot,

"Brian Loughnane is the director of Parakeelia" (He is one of several directors)

So What?

Again nothing but innuendo. All you have is that a company that does work for the government is a donor to the liberals. So what?
Posted by Shadow Minister, Monday, 13 June 2016 9:05:52 AM
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SM,

"Again nothing but innuendo. All you have is that a company that does work for the government is a donor to the liberals"

Lol!....

Funnelling taxpayers money into a Lib org - nice work if you can get it.

Liberals - dodgy as!
Posted by Poirot, Monday, 13 June 2016 9:17:05 AM
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Parrot,

It is not a liberal organisation. It has one person that is an ex lib that spends a few hours a month sitting on the board of directors.

Again feeble innuendo. This is at best a pathetic muck racking exercise.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Monday, 13 June 2016 9:28:19 AM
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SM,

Ho hum....poor old Shadow Minister always resorts to "Parrot" when he's down on the canvas.

Btw, it's pretty shabby stuff for a guy with all those degrees, SM - can't you debate someone without resorting to grade 3 antics?

Anyhoo...

"It is not a liberal organisation. It has one person that is an ex lib that spends a few hours a month sitting on the board of directors."

Oh really?

"A company Liberal MPs direct taxpayer funds towards to monitor voter behaviour has become a major source of income for the party, raising questions about whether taxpayers are indirectly donating to the Liberals.

Fairfax Media can reveal nearly all Liberal MPs pay a company, Parakeelia Pty Ltd, $2500 a year to use "Feedback" software, money understood to come from their taxpayer-funded office allowances.

Parakeelia is registered to the same inner-Canberra office building as the Liberals. The company's directors include the Liberal Party's federal director, Tony Nutt, and president, Richard Alston. It is registered with authorities as being associated with the party.

Last financial year, Parakeelia transferred $500,000 to the federal Liberal division, making it the party's second-biggest single source of funds. The year before it came in fourth with $400,000; before that $200,000.

But the Liberals would not say how much of the company's revenue began as taxpayer funding.

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/federal-election-2016/election-2016-mps-directing-taxpayer-funds-towards-liberal-partylinked-company-and-donor-20160608-gpe87q.html#ixzz4BPdNIdFu

Again - "...It is registered with authorities as being associated with the party."

Brian Loughnane is also the Financial Controller of Parakeelia.
Posted by Poirot, Monday, 13 June 2016 10:02:02 AM
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Again Parrot, So what?

No one has suggested that anything illegal occurred. Labor does it all the time, under Juliar tonnes of cash was given to the unions by the government for "training" which came straight back to labor, in return for stacking FWA with ex union heavies.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Monday, 13 June 2016 12:17:38 PM
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