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Daniel Andrew's CFA Blunder.

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You talk more crap than Abbott ever did. Andrews did the right thing sacking the board. They were going against recommendations from FWA.

His former minister did not want the FWA directives either.

Your biggest worry should be Abbott lurking in the background. Turnbull has turned out to be a mothers boy not game enough to make any decisions.

Bill is all that is needed, elections are lost not won.
Posted by 579, Sunday, 12 June 2016 10:57:18 AM
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Sheer thuggery by the UFU and by the labor government.

579, The board of the CFA are long time service volunteer members who strangely enough hold the values of the volunteers above the safety of their jobs.

"One volunteer firefighter had his tyres slashed after speaking publicly against the deal.

The union chief given un­precedented power over Vic­toria’s volunteer firefighters has pushed to make it harder for volunteers who get cancer associ­ated with firefighting to access ­compensation.

United Firefighters Union boss Peter Marshall has also taken a stand against efforts to increase the number of female firefighters in Melbourne’s paid metropolitan brigade.

Mr Marshall is a close ally of Victorian Premier Daniel ­Andrews, who last week saw off Jane Garrett, who resigned as emergency services minister after she backed volunteers over the UFU, and sacked the board of the Country Fire Authority.

Volunteer brigades have told The Australian of a culture of outright hostility from the union, a situation that flared in ­recent weeks as the Victorian Labor government attempts to ram through an enterprise bargaining agreement with the CFA, which has 60,000 volunteers."
Posted by Shadow Minister, Monday, 13 June 2016 5:02:36 AM
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The MFB wants more area to cover That is what the 7 paid firefighters are about. As is now the CFA covers much of the greater Melbourne area Except a donut area within Melbourne.
It is a dispute over territory, Melbourne boundaries have shifted greatly and the MFB feels it is being squeezed into non existence as to territory.
Former country towns are now suburbs of Melbourne, which are CFA territory.
This dispute does not belong with the CFA there will be no change. Misinformation is coming from the Herald sun newspaper.
A directive came from FWA to implement their ruling. Which said 7 paid firefighters will attend any fires within a stipulated area within greater Melbourne area. Which is currently serviced by the CFA.
The only part the union had was the initial recommendations as to territory which the FWA has endorsed.
The CFA are not part of that union, and should not be part of discussion. The CFA are not going to be replaced with paid firefighters. The MFB wants supervision rights over fires within the greater Melbourne stipulated area, which is controlled by CFA.
The real story and what is in papers are two different stories. {It’s election time }
Posted by 579, Monday, 13 June 2016 8:58:24 AM
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579,

What we have is a Labor premiere riding roughshod over the volunteer firefighters and trying to force them to sign an EBA that is clearly not in their interest, and probably illegal as well.

Why else is Shorten on his knees begging volunteers not to quit? Simply because there is likely a massive backlash against Labor in Victorian marginal seats that Labor needs to win.

"But there’s little doubt the issue will make the volatile Liberal-held seat of Corangamite more difficult for Labor to win and could impact on the marginal Liberal seats of Dunkley and La Trobe and marginal Labor seats of McEwen and Bendigo"
Posted by Shadow Minister, Monday, 13 June 2016 9:16:52 AM
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The dispute has nothing to do with votes, that is wishful thinking. Volunteers were misled by newspaper crap and so are you. How can you be a volunteer and be subject to EBA they do not get paid.
It is a case of when the boss is away the mice will play.
You don’t give any mention to the FWA. Is that tactical to keep the rumor going.
Posted by 579, Monday, 13 June 2016 9:41:57 AM
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579

Wrong,

The volunteers do get some pay. Not much but a little with some insurance benefits. Why do you think DA was trying to force the CFA to sign the EBA?

Of course this will influence voters especially out of the cities where the CFA are the first responders to fires.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Monday, 13 June 2016 9:55:52 AM
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