Dear Mr Opinion,

Because of events that were set in motion
in the moment of the
cosmic explosion (the Big Bang). It was
literally the moment of Creation. The universe
flashed into being and they can't find out
what caused that to happen.

To atheistic scientists to not be able to
document this must be unsettling.

david f, You have hijacked this thread, and posted a heap of unrelated nonsense.
The three scientists you admire all believed in a Creator, and Newton wrote extensive theological works, as well as his primary works on mathematics, and gravity.

Jesus was a devout Jew so it is perfectly natural his teaching identified the best of Jewish writing and thought from the Jewish scriptures. Big deal!

You spouting your negative comparative nonsense does nothing to enhance the spirit of man, it might be sufficient to convince your closed mind by its obsession. All the things you mention are syncronistic inclusions by the Roman Catholic Church from its pagan civilization and not New Testament doctrine. We have heard it all before, as you cannot offer genuine research into the actual life of Christ

Dear Josephus,

Of course I can't offer genuine research into the life of Christ. He is a semi-mythological figure - a subject of legend. One thing I can be sure of is that miracles never happened. They are just fairy tales. When you are dead - that's it. The end - finito - goodbye. Nobody comes back.

Einstein did not believe in a personal God.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Albert_Einstein tells about the religious views of Einstein. From that site:

Einstein expressed his skepticism regarding an anthropomorphic deity, often describing it as "naïve" and "childlike". He stated, "It seems to me that the idea of a personal God is an anthropological concept which I cannot take seriously. I feel also not able to imagine some will or goal outside the human sphere. My views are near those of Spinoza: admiration for the beauty of and belief in the logical simplicity of the order which we can grasp humbly and only imperfectly. I believe that we have to content ourselves with our imperfect knowledge and understanding and treat values and moral obligations as a purely human problem—the most important of all human problems."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Charles_Darwin tells about the religious views of Charles Darwin. A Darwin quote from that site:

"I can indeed hardly see how anyone ought to wish Christianity to be true; for if so the plain language of the text seems to show that the men who do not believe, and this would include my Father, Brother and almost all my best friends, will be everlastingly punished. And this is a damnable doctrine."

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Isaac_Newton tells about the religious views of Isaac Newton. Unlike Einstein and Darwin he believed in God as a creator but had unorthodox religious views.

From that site:

Newton's conception of the physical world provided a stable model of the natural world that would reinforce stability and harmony in the civic world. Newton saw a monotheistic God as the masterful creator whose existence could not be denied in the face of the grandeur of all creation.[6][7] Although born into an Anglican family, by his thirties Newton held a Christian faith that, had it been made public, would not have been considered orthodox by mainstream Christianity;[8] in recent times he has been described as a heretic.

Einstein and Darwin did not believe in a Creator God. Newton apparently did. If Newton had other beliefs he could not have made them public in the time and place he lived and been safe.

Einstein and Darwin did not share your beliefs.

Dear david f,

>>Jesus claimed that only through him could one enter the kingdom of heaven. That is pure arrogance.<<

This is (part of) what many Christian theologians claim, namely that Jesus — in distinction to other founders (or foundation figures, if you like) of a religion — was either arrogant or spoke with a more than human authority. As we both know, you opt for the first, I for the second alternative.

>>from what I have read I prefer the wisdom of Einstein and Newton to that of Jesus.<<

This is certainly your prerogative, in spite of the fact that it was you who brought Jesus into a thread about theoretical physics. So Jesus, and what he was about, seems to be quite omnipresent, even when subconsciously.

The rest of your post to me does not contradict what I had said; never mind your favourite term mumbojumbo (to describe things - myths, narratives, concepts etc – that need to be interpreted, not taken literally).

Dear Mr Opinion (and Foxy),

>> Why will science never be able to find the origin of the universe?<<

Because this is not what science is about. The presently accepted Big Bang theory includes time, so to ask what was before it is like, in Hawkins’ words, to ask what is to the north of the North Pole. There are different, mostly still speculative, cosmological theories, with different understandings of time (or times) and origin (origins).

The biblical answer to your question calls “Creator” what we now call the ultimate cause and purpose (rather than origin) of being (rather than just the impersonal universe studied by science) or "being itself , c.f. http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=17951#318961 corelating this to the burning bush revelation to Moses. However, for philosophically unsophisticated folks the term Creation (in time) was used in the Bible.

Mr Opinion,

Sorry God, I tried. You know best.