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Should Sikhs be allowed to carry ceremonial daggers ?

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Jayb,

The Kilt is not a form of National Dress and the Sikhs don't carry a dagger; just so we all know that of which we are writing.
Posted by Is Mise, Friday, 22 January 2016 8:36:37 AM
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Is Mise: The Kilt is not a form of National Dress and the Sikhs don't carry a dagger; just so we all know that of which we are writing.

Suma suma (Malaysian), for Same, same. You knew dam well what I meant. Either that or one of ya sheep got out, & you, can't afford to lose any.
Posted by Jayb, Friday, 22 January 2016 12:32:32 PM
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No, Jayb, I thought you meant that the Kilt was a form of National Dress and that Sikhs carry a dagger; if that's not what you meant then why say it?
Posted by Is Mise, Friday, 22 January 2016 1:48:06 PM
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Dear Is Mise,

I looked up Scottish kilts on the web.
This is what I found:

"When it comes to national costume, we don't think
there's anything that can match Scottish kilts."

"They're colourful, exotic, stylish... and just
plain cool!"

"Although it's not only we Scots who can lay claim to
the kilt as a form of national dress, traditional kilts are
recognized around the world as a symbol of Scotland."

"In its most original form the kilt was a piece of
clothing uniquely suited to the practical needs of
Highlanders and may have its roots in the type of
clothing worn by the numerous invaders who landed on
Scottish soil so long ago."

"It has changed a lot since,
is now often seen at ceremonies and official occasions ranging
from weddings to military processions."

Google it for yourself - there's heaps more on the web.
All very interesting.
Posted by Foxy, Friday, 22 January 2016 3:57:20 PM
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Foxy,

Interesting but wrong; the kilt, as we now know it, was the invention of an Englishman, a foundry master, he devised a division of the kilt into two halves, the 'little' kilt and the cloak.
The Kilt in all its forms is Highland Dress, the Lowlanders, the majority of Scots, dressed differently:
"According to the English military chaplain Thomas Morer, in 1689 Highland men wore plaids about seven or eight yards long, which covered from the neck to the knees except the right arm. Beneath the plaid they wore a waistcoat or a shirt to the same length as the drape of the plaid. These were "belted plaids." Their stockings were made of the same stuff as the plaid and their shoes were called "brocks" (brogues). Bonnets were blue or "sad" coloured. Morer noted that the fineness of the fabric varied according to the wealth and status of the man. Scottish Lowlanders were dressed much like the English, except both men and women also used a plaid as a cloak. The Lowland women wrapped their plaids over their heads as hoods."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highland_dress#Historical_descriptions
Posted by Is Mise, Friday, 22 January 2016 4:30:37 PM
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Dear Is Mise,

Thanks for that.

Here's one for you:

http://www.scottish-history.com/kilt.shtml
Posted by Foxy, Friday, 22 January 2016 5:28:53 PM
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