NathanJ, production of rubbish is not itself a major environmental problem. Incorrect disposal of it is, but you have no evidence that the people you were criticising were doing that.

Recycling has reat advantages, including saving energy, but there are other ways to achieve that objective. The costs of correctly disposing of rubbish are mainly financial rather than environmental. And the financial costs of eliminating packaging are likely to be much higher.

Nathan,

I agree that waste must be reduced, but not how. For once I find myself agreeing with Aidan. While reducing waste is good, so is recycling and other efforts. The 70% with double standards who do a little to reduce their waste by say 20%, they do a lot more for the world than the 1% of self righteous prigs that reduce their waste by 90%.