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Free trade agreements. and Scare campaigns.

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Download the Kindle edition of "Declarations of Dependence". by Joseph M. Firestone (2015-07-20) from Amazon at about a tenner for a plain language forensic analysis of the TPP and related agreements beihg stitched up in secret behind our backs. Dr Firestone is American but the American perspective closely mirrors our own. If even American sovereignty is threatened what does that say for Australia's?
Posted by EmperorJulian, Tuesday, 4 August 2015 2:19:24 PM
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EJ,

I can find many better uses for $10 than buying an e book from a tin pot conspiracy theorist.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Tuesday, 4 August 2015 3:12:54 PM
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So deals impacting Australian and even American sovereignty are not being hammered out in secret? Nobody is conspiring anything? Full transparency? Open consultation of all stakeholders?

Or not?

Get real.
Posted by EmperorJulian, Tuesday, 4 August 2015 3:45:04 PM
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Correct, Japan will end up with our sub deal, it happened 2 years ago.
Posted by doog, Tuesday, 4 August 2015 3:47:37 PM
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EJ,

I rest my case.

The whole argument about sovereignty is complete bollocks as any government can withdraw from these agreements at anytime resolves the issue. All international agreements and laws place restrictions on governments, but they agree because the restrictions are sensible and yield benefits.

For example laws against speeding, drink driving and seat belts all place restrictions on peoples choices, but give all drivers greater safety, lower insurance etc.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Wednesday, 5 August 2015 5:21:25 AM
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If counties import goods into a country for sale. Once goods are sold, money is placed into local banks. Accumulated money can be used to bribe politicians. For defensive reasons, doing business with foreign counties is not that wise.
Foreign countries can invade other countries without firing a shot, taking over political system with bribes, leading to exposing bribe threats, retirement rewards. one bribed politician can control parliaments by blocking political processes.

Countries becoming dependant in consumer goods imports allow the value of money to be controlled by foreign restricting imports allowing inflation to run away.

If ever a political system wanted to destroy local value of money, blaming other countries limited imports could be used.

Allowing local manufactures to close under ideas of importing cheaper goods from foreign countries is either a bad idea or some world government controls trade.

Because of the above reasons mentioned, world trade must be governed by a world government, like as in the Roman Empire 2000 years ago.
Posted by steve101, Wednesday, 5 August 2015 2:26:07 PM
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