Basic principle: It does not matter whether AGW is true or not !

Foxy said;
As far as economic growth goes it's predicted that this will
continue over 2011 - 2050 at around 2.5 per cent per year

Fairyland stuff. Why should Australia be able to defy the same gravity
that all other countries are now experiencing ?
Re the water in Southern Australia, it cannot be solved because water is heavy.
Because it is heavy it takes lots of energy to raise it above sea level.
Foxy: how will we feed the population? We won't !
Hasbeen:Ships will simply move to nuclear power, as developed & proven by the US navy.
Probably expensive, and greenies will scream.
>powered by electricity & methane, with clathrate vacuumed from the
deep ocean, & extracted from the tundra.
Catch22: ERoEI ?
Julian:the GFH was sidelined from Australia.
Barnaby Joyce:- "Manage your debt or debt manages you !"
Foxy said:
if governments are
not prepared to listen to the scientists or think that
science is a "load of crap."

For once a government action that has looked forward.
The government has removed the subsidy from wind farms after the
German & others experience They do not work !
Now to finance research into energy.

Solution, Keep the coal for ourselves, we need it to find & build the
next energy regime. No one knows how long it will take.

Dear Foxy
This is my best guess

Racial problems,______________Yes probably worse than present
Crime, ______________________Reduced aging population translates to less crime
Gun-Violence, ________________Less as above
Continued involvement in wars__ worse than present caused by overpopulation and climate change.
Are we going to import water?__ No we will be using desalination and will have to recycle city water.

Aluminum is the most abundant metallic element in the Earth's crust we will not be running out of the stuff anytime soon.

Food production in Australia will not decline but we will likely see more factory farming, and a shift in the food producing areas, but food will become relatively more expensive primarily due high cost of liquid fuels for agricultural equipment.

Energy will be mostly from renewable sources, coal power use will be eliminated and exports of coal will be limited to metallurgical uses only.
Liquid fossil fuels will be expensive and will possibly only account for 30% of the liquid fuels used, most liquid fuels will be produced by solar power stations. 50% of cars will be powered by electricity, but there will be far fewer cars on the road, a lot more people will work from home via computers.There will be a very fast train running along the east coast from Adelaide (possibly Perth) to Brisbane. Air travel we be seriously reduced compared to the present and a lot more expensive.There will no nuclear power stations in operation in Australia apart from any needed to produce medical isotopes.

Australia will be enjoying a boom, the growth rate will be over 3% per year. Booms and busts generally are related to demographics, with most booms being experienced during periods when the majority of the work force is in the forties. According to most projections the largest demographic group in Australia will be in the 42 age group in 2050.

The boom will be related to the personalized production of goods for example when buying cloths you will simply be scanned and a machine will manufacture the items as a perfect fit.

Dear Bazz,

Thanks for that.

Our energy consumption will increase and I agree
with you that fossil fuels are likely to continue
supplying the bulk of this. But we should also be
concerned what happens when our supply is exhausted
in possibly 60 to 80 years, at current rates of
extraction.

Dear Warmair,

Thank You for such a detailed reply.

I shall have to wait and let all of it sink in.
I shall get back to you.

We wouldn't have a problem with the future if we bred our population instead of importing the
riff raff unemployable cast offs of the world.
Just go to your local licensed club and see them there every day ob the poker machines.

Hottair
That's about all you are. If you actually believe anything your saying then you and your kind become
the problem.

Bazz,

What the rest of the world is now experiencing isn't gravity, it's the results of trying to implement austerity while the private sector is weak.

Barnaby Joyce was wrong. He was under the illusion that Australia has limited credit. But in reality Australia has unlimited credit, so a stimulus would be just as affordable if our debt were 200% of GDP than it would if we had no debt at all. As it happens we don't have much debt, but that's got no bearing on whether it's affordable.

Pumping water really doesn't use that much energy. Australia is the world's lowest continent, and most people live in relatively low lying areas.

Nuclear power is too expensive for ships. Most will probably continue to use liquid fuel, though when the wind's blowing some might also put sails up!

Wind farms work very well, but the government's removed their access to cheap finance – despite the fact that it costs then nothing and will result in cheaper electricity prices.

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warmair,

Why do you think the VFT would only go as far north as Brisbane?

It would make sense to extend it to Adelaide, but not Perth.
And while there will be fewer flights on some domestic routes, there will be more than others. And there'll be a lot more international flights, particularly to Indonesia.

Did anyone watch Q&A tonight?

It was awesome.

Made me wish that I had studied Physics at school.

And I got the message loud and clear.

Our future depends on Science.

I wonder if any of our politicians watch the program?