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Posted by Poirot, Wednesday, 19 August 2015 1:55:00 PM
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Paul,
I see that you have resorted to outright lying, though I should not expect honesty from any pedogreen, who by his own words declared that the perceptions counted not the facts. The honourable Barwick advised Kerr on his powers and duties during the constitutional crisis brought on by the incompetent grub Gough. Similarly Heydon did not give the Rhodes Scholarship to Abbott, but was on a panel of 7 that recommended Abbott. That old trollip Triggs lied to an enquiry, deliberately delayed an inquiry so as to benefit Labor, and is now giving a presentation at a Labor fundraiser. If the good and honourable Heydon should be sacked, Triggs should be taken out and shot. Parrot, Kathy Jackson is a union crook However, while she did the country a favour by exposing the crooks, she was stupid enough to do the same herself. Notably the left whingers fought a rear guard action to protect Thompson and Williamson, but are eager to lynch Jackson. From the ABC http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-08-20/earl-this-is-why-we-need-a-royal-commission/6710452 However, what Ben Schneiders and other left whingers forget is that the prime purpose of the RC is to investigate corrupt activity between the unions and the public rather than the sordid details of internal theft and embezzlement that occurs within the union. Notably Thompson and Williamson were not called. As for the treatment of Jackson, the RC exposed her credit card abuses and tore down her credibility, however, as this was 14 months ago, much of what is now known was yet to be uncovered. I do notice a complete lack of any investigation of the other senior members of the HSU. Posted by Shadow Minister, Thursday, 20 August 2015 12:58:24 PM
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SM,
"Kathy Jackson is a union crook However, while she did the country a favour by exposing the crooks, she was stupid enough to do the same herself. Notably the left whingers fought a rear guard action to protect Thompson and Williamson, but are eager to lynch Jackson." She did the "same"? Lol!....$1.3 million! of the same....all the while seemingly being protected from any consequences by all and sundry. Pyne fawns over Jackson in a parliamentary apology: "The House of Representatives has made an unprecedented apology over the false statement made to the parliament by disgraced former Labor MP Craig Thomson." "The apology, moved by Leader of the House Christopher Pyne, was directed to individuals who were the subject of “egregious falsehoods” in Thomson’s May 2012 speech..." "He said among those named in a negative way by Thomson in his speech was the HSU official Kathy Jackson - “a revolutionary”, who “will be remembered red as a lion of the union movement”." http://theconversation.com/parliament-says-sorry-over-thomson-statement-23673 During TURC, Heydon all but glossed over Jackson's (at the time) alleged misdeeds. You slagged Independent Australia whenever we linked to the site - and their investigations turned up trumps in the end...while MSM sat on their hands regarding Jackson. It was uncovered - by Independent Australia...page after page by IA and Peter Wicks. I'd like a dollar for every apologist I've heard in the last 24 hours say "But we didn't know". It's very clear now, as one news outlet put it, that Jackson painting herself as a whistleblower now seems like a sick joke. Here's the judgement: http://www.judgments.fedcourt.gov.au/judgments/Judgments/fca/single/2015/2015fca0865 Methodical - comparing it to Thomson's misdeeds is ridiculous - and all the while being lauded and/or protected by those who could have addressed the accusations against her. Posted by Poirot, Thursday, 20 August 2015 4:39:09 PM
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Shadow, I don't know your state of being in 1975, you may have been nothing more that a twinkle in the old mans eye, so be it. But I was in my early 20's and clearly recall the shocking revelations, that without seeking the advice of his Prime Minister the forever inebriated Kerr did seek the advice of Barwick, a former Liberal Party Minister. End of that story.
Now, how about explaining your statement "(The) TURC in its short time has already covered up more corruption and criminal activity than ICAC ever did," Is that in relation to Kathy Jackson, I think it is. Poirot is totally correct, the conservative side of politics chose to gloss over Jackson's criminality as she was a useful tool to attack Labor through the HSU. Her whistle blowing, although predominantly true, was used by Abbott and co to achieve a political end, and Heydon's RC assisted in that regard. Posted by Paul1405, Thursday, 20 August 2015 8:18:13 PM
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Poirot,
I have no idea what you are crowing about. No one on this forum has claimed that she was innocent, nor has the coalition lifted one finger or protect her unlike the delaying tactics that Juliar employed. Yet in spite of her crimes KJ has done more for workers than any union boss incl Shorten. Wong or any of the ex union Labor MPs by exposing the rampant ripping off of members in just about every union. Notably the union movement quietly shredded just about everything on Thompson and Williamson while the 3yr FWA investigation was not happening, and never willingly submitted one scrap of evidence on either of them, yet miraculously found all the records on KJ. Thomson was implicated in hundreds of thousands filched through overcharging for the union magazines and was just as bad as KJ as a thief, but also cheated on his wife with prostitutes then as an MP lied to parliament. Juliar defended and protected him and ended up stinking of corruption as well. As Far as the IA is concerned, Peter Wicks started bagging KJ from the moment she ratted on CT, but in doing so not report any fact that the MSM had not reported. This was while vigorously defending Thompson's innocence which they got spectacularly wrong. I find nothing to change my opinion that the IA is feeble alternative to journalism. Secondly your comment that during TURC Heydon glossed over Jacksons is BS, because TURC exposed her embezzlement, and secondly it was the duty of the prosecutor to question the vitness. Finally Lawler was appointed to the FWA by Juliar Posted by Shadow Minister, Thursday, 20 August 2015 11:13:30 PM
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Gawd, SM...you actually called me "Poirot"!
But.... "Finally Lawler was appointed to the FWA by Juliar" http://independentaustralia.net/politics/politics-display/how-jackson-lawler-and-abbott-tangled-thomson-with-the-hsu,4131 "On the 11th of October 2002, according to the FWA annual report, Michael Lawler was appointed Vice President of Fair Work Australia — although back then it was called the Australian Industrial Relations Commission. Previously, Lawler was a barrister who made his mark representing employers in employment disputes. The man who appointed him to the AIRC was none other than Tony Abbott — who at the time was Employment and Workplace Relations Minister under John Howard’s Coalition Government." On his appointment, Tony Abbott gave a speech praising Lawler in a remarkably personal and intimate fashion. Here is some of what he said that day: “Intellect combined with common sense, compassion tempered by realism, ideals shaped but not dimmed by experience, some grasp of the nobility and waywardness that contend in every man: these, in my view, are some of the qualities which Vice President Lawler will bring to the demanding and often lonely life that lies before him.” "Kathy Jackson has caused the union movement untold damage and brought the Federal Government to the brink of collapse. One would assume that the public may be interested in knowing a little more about her and any conflicts of interest she may have. One vital piece of information that is not widely known about her is that her partner is a man named Michael Lawler. Who is Michael Lawler? For starters, according to reliable sources, Michael Lawler is friends with a man named Tony Abbott. Apparently, the two of them socialise regularly. Conveniently, Tony Abbott is also the leader of the political party making so much ground out of the claims Michael’s partner is making. Michael Lawler works for an organisation called Fair Work Australia, where he is a Vice-President on a salary of $400,000 a year. The only person higher than him at that organisation is Iain Ross, who just replaced Geoffrey Giudice – the one who Tony Abbott and Lawler’s partner Kathy Jackson were attacking daily – as President of Fair Work Australia." Posted by Poirot, Friday, 21 August 2015 7:20:02 AM
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What a shame...
Fancy the law catching up with her when TURC wouldn't.
"What do you do when your star witness in a politically motivated inquiry turns out to be an alleged thief who may have stolen more than $1 million? Just ignore it.
The credibility of the Royal Commission into trade union governance and corruption should suffer a serious blow from its glaring omissions on the allegedly corrupt behaviour of Kathy Jackson and how it has treated her throughout these hearings.
The inquiry has always appeared politically motivated but the question was, despite this, was it a worthwhile process to root out corruption in the union movement and lead to a well-needed overhaul of questionable governance practices around slush funds and the like. The jury has been out on that.
Yet the 1817-page interim report by Commissioner Dyson Heydon dealt with a range of issues both serious and trivial but ignored Jackson. There was an oblique reference, without naming her, that other issues to do with the Health Services Union would be dealt with in a future report.
This inquiry, as the union movement has claimed, is a witchhunt and a waste of money if it is prepared to recommend charges against some other union officials for relatively minor transgressions but ignore the conduct of Jackson, a Coalition hero for exposing corruption in her union.
Dyson Heydon's interim report fails to deal with the documentary evidence against Jackson, her own admissions and the recommendation of his own counsel assisting Jeremy Stoljar, that charges be considered against her for submitting a "false claim" to the Peter MacCallum cancer hospital.
In any event, Stoljar arguably let Jackson off the hook – he did not deal with other serious issues, as he said they were being dealt with by a civil case brought against her by the HSU."
http://www.theage.com.au/national/failure-to-deal-with-kathy-jackson-undermines-credibility-of-royal-commission-20141219-12aof9.html#ixzz3jEISk5hp
All the chickens are coming home to roost.....