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The Forum > General Discussion > Our current PM Tony ABBOTT - A competent leader or A divisive failure ?

Our current PM Tony ABBOTT - A competent leader or A divisive failure ?

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Under the fourth option, the federal government would provide funding for all students "adjusted for student need and the ability of families to make a contribution"." - Poirot

And your point is..?
Posted by ConservativeHippie, Monday, 22 June 2015 8:58:00 AM
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CH,

"And your point is..?"

Just putting it out there.

Ahem....Chris Pyne is a little confused though....

http://twitter.com/cpyne/status/612754950314024960

"Charging wealthy parents for their children to attend public schools is not the government's policy. I don't support it."

Which is understandable...since these proposals were cooked up in the PMO as usual.

More chaos...but it's a neat distraction from Abbott's justice legislation.
Posted by Poirot, Monday, 22 June 2015 9:56:31 AM
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Poirot, "Sheridan and Abbott are pretty chummy"

The interviewer George Megalogenis countered such likely ad hominen attacks stating firmly that he himself had a good knowledge of work colleague Greg Sheridan Foreign Editor of The Australian, and regarded Greg as highly credible and above reproach.

Mengalogenis added that Greg Sheridan is universally known as "One of the good guys" in journalism.

It is there early in the recorded video. Along with these telling assessments,

"There was one reason Marr hated Abbott and that was because he won."

Greg Sheridan Foreign Editor of The Australian who has known Tony Abbott all of his life and was reported as saying that the Tony Abbott that Marr has described in the quarterly essay is not the Tony Abbott he has always known.
[related by George Megalogenis]

http://www.wheelercentre.com/broadcasts/quarterly-essay-political-animal-the-making-of-tony-abbott-david-marr
Posted by onthebeach, Monday, 22 June 2015 10:22:51 AM
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otb,

"ad hominem"?

I merely pointed out that the relationship was close - consequently one wouldn't be surprised if Sheridan promoted "the real" Abbott as some sort of (well hidden) treasure.

But we could fill volumes with the utterances of people close to Abbott telling us that "the Abbott they know is nothing like his public persona".

You know the persona to which I allude? - the one that lies and tricks and coughs and misrepresents - that one.

Isn't it fascinating that his private persona is at such odds with the odious one we're treated to on a daily basis.
Posted by Poirot, Monday, 22 June 2015 10:35:43 AM
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Poirot, "consequently one wouldn't be surprised if Sheridan promoted "the real" Abbott as some sort of (well hidden) treasure"

Again, the interviewer George Megalogenis countered such likely ad hominen attacks by stating clearly and firmly that he himself had a good knowledge of Greg Sheridan Foreign Editor of The Australian, and regarded Greg as highly credible and above reproach.

Mengalogenis added that Greg Sheridan is universally known as "One of the good guys" in journalism.
Posted by onthebeach, Monday, 22 June 2015 11:07:39 AM
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otb,

"....George Megalogenis countered such likely ad hominen attacks by stating clearly and firmly that he himself had a good knowledge of Greg Sheridan Foreign Editor of The Australian, and regarded Greg as highly credible and above reproach.

Mengalogenis added that Greg Sheridan is universally known as "One of the good guys" in journalism."

That's very nice, I'm sure.

Though it doesn't alter Abbott's public persona or his debacle of tenure.

(Coming from one of the forum masters of ad hominem attack - or shall we forget every instance you've gone after Foxy?:)
Posted by Poirot, Monday, 22 June 2015 11:12:09 AM
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