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The gay marriage debate, are we opening a can of worms.
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Posted by Paul1405, Monday, 22 June 2015 10:11:12 AM
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AJ,
We have been told ad infinatum that the majority of Australians support ssm, if this is so why is the bashing of homosexuals on the rise? The attack in Melbourne was, apparently, quite vicious. Meanwhile there is some reading on the matter of prejudice against homosexuals at http://gaynewsnetwork.com.au/gay-bashing.html Posted by Is Mise, Monday, 22 June 2015 12:05:18 PM
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Is Mise,
The recent rise in gay bashings in Melbourne is being carried out by the same group of hoodlums, as far as I know. I haven't heard of any statistically significant long-term trend in a rise of gay bashings but if there is, then some of that may be attributed to the rise in assaults in general over the last twenty years or so. I don’t know. I had a quick look on the AIC’s website but couldn’t see any data show a long term trend there. Either way, a rise in gay bashings doesn’t necessarily contradict all the polls showing that an increasing majority are in favour of marriage equality. In fact, it may even be consistent with it if a rapidly decreasing and radicalised minority are growing more desperate to demonstrate their disapproval of the increasing acceptance of the gay community in general. Posted by AJ Philips, Monday, 22 June 2015 12:29:16 PM
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Suseonline,
You must live a sheltered life. Where my wife and I lived just three years ago in Western Sydney, two women in their fifties having raised their children to teenagers left their husbands and moved to NZ so they could marry. They only met a couple years before moving to NZ. Of course they were born lesbian and only desired sex with woman, Nonsense!! It was a new discovery, just their husbands treated them disrespectfully. Posted by Josephus, Monday, 22 June 2015 1:11:49 PM
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It is simply amazing that:
- the discovery or 'evolution'(sic) to homosexuality is a one-way trip, infallible, whereas heterosexual sexuality is always open to question; and, - that infallibility exists in the young. Only the gay young though. It is an infallibility exclusive to gays. Any wonder the gay 'rights' campaigners also allocate high priority to removal of age of consent and dispute the very concept of minor, especially child minor. The State is useful for some things abut cannot be allowed to get in the road where it is inconvenient. Presumably children can evolve to gay, with a little help from the only people who can help them shed their cocoon of childhood, namely adult gays. Posted by onthebeach, Monday, 22 June 2015 1:37:13 PM
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Re. slavery.
Slavery in the British Isles existed for thousands of years and even after its abolition the conditions of workers, particularly those in agriculture, were often worse than in the days of slavery; a slave was worth money but an 'ag lab' was entirely worthless, in monetary terms, to the masters. One of the Isles most prominent slaves was Patricius (5th C. AD) who won fame in Ireland where he endured some six years of slavery. Posted by Is Mise, Monday, 22 June 2015 1:41:05 PM
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You simply state your opinions as fact, very much a revisionist view of history, opinions are not necessarily facts. No reference to convict labour as being nothing more that slave labour in every thing but name only. These non European workers, Australia never had to any large extent a mass of non European workers, Chinese on the goldfields may have been in competition with Europeans, but not in the sense we understand workers offering their services for hire, therefore in competition with others. Blackbirding, Islanders used as slaves in Queensland sugar industry is the most direct case of slavery in Australia, at what point, or at what price Europeans would have been prepared to do that work is highly debatable.
The British in North America, both as British subject prior to 1776, and after in shipping slaves from Africa, were heavy involved in the slave trade. William Wilberforce a British politician and anti slaver should make interesting reading for you.
"state imposed equality would be still be hell on earth like it was in Ukraine circa 1932." Interesting you make no reference to the most grotesque state of them all Nazi Germany 1933-45, then again you aspire for Australia to mimic that very state.