Another attempt to divert and derail the discussion rather than come to grips with the very obvious reality proved by numbers that it is over-enthusiastic immigration that is the most potent force driving up house prices in Sydney and in other capitals, but specifically Melbourne and Brisbane.

The overpopulation and far too rapid growth for the even the most optimistic estimates of increase in infrastructure in those capitals is due to immigration and the family reunion that adds to the numbers.

Further, there is evidence to suggest that young Aussie couples are not having the children they want which could explain the unexpected spike in abortions conducted for women in their best childbearing years (early twenties to early thirties) - or are having their much later than desirable, adding to the cost to themselves and Medicare. Late fertility exposes these women and their progeny to a broad range of medical problems (which again could increase the number of abortions).

It is damned unfortunate for young working couples that they are being required to put off or shelve the family and future they planned and worked so hard for. All to solve(?!) and provide transport, energy, water and other infrastructure plus Medicare and welfare for far too many migrants. Now the urgers are hoping to increase the number to new record levels.

It is only to be expected that the culturally cringing leftists with their endless-diversity-Australia-is-obliged-to-have will point their fingers every which way that at the obvious contributor, high immigration, to high housing prices and ramped up taxes and council rates.

They are shameless in their denial of obvious fact. Honestly, go to an auction and look!

To add, over the decades both sides of the political fence have promised and at times undertaken all manner of initiatives to populate the country areas with migrants. Who can forget the 'regionalisation initiatives'?

Apart from the predictable, voluntary location in the country of some migrants from Europe post WW2, the substantial majority of migrants lob in the large metropolitan cities. There the infrastructure problems are an expensive nightmare.

Now there is spruiking to import a population greater than Australia presently has to populate tropical areas to the north, specifically northern Queensland. While I would like to see some limited, well-planned development of North Queensland, it is astounding that any politician could be so crass as to be unaware of the environmental and social problems that would ensue.

The cynical, conceited, self-obsessed career politicians who bloom like fungus in Canberra need to understand that the public isn't there to serve their interests. Rather, it is they who are the servants of the public and must take heed of what the public wants.

Outside of the political parties and their lobbyists there is NO collective agreement that big is better and growthism is good.

Further, there is NO collective decision that a huge population, teeming cities and endless 'diversity-we-are obliged -to-have' as an end in itself (so the elitist leftists can rub the noses of the 'whites' in it) are required and good.

In fact the public want the exact opposite.

The public are continually being railroaded by political interests who do not believe in democracy and the good of anyone but themselves and it shows. The solution? Keep turfing the rubbish out in Canberra and often!

There are many factors that may partially explain the
increase in house prices in this country.

The following website gives us a better understanding
of the big picture. It is based on reports done by
the RBA, ABS, the Commonwealth Bank of Australia's recent
Home Buyer Affordability Report, and others.

http://www.globalpropertyguide.com/Pacific/Australia/Price-History

It's always helpful to glean information from a variety of
sources to get the full facts.

As stated many times - humans have the intelligence, the
tools and the natural resources to provide for a good,
sustainable life as long as there are not so many humans
that we exceed the globe's carrying capacity. And all the
evidence suggests that we must turn around population
growth and aim for a much smaller population than we have
today.

As Prof. Tor Hundloe has told us -

We are in the early days of knowing what the globe's limits
are. Due to the infancy of ecology our understanding is not
precise. Debates must take place. These we should welcome,
rather than engage in black and white green ideology.
We are more advanced in understanding which economic
levers can move in the right direction than we arein our
ecological knowledge. Hundloe states that we have seen the
gulf deepen between what were once united sources of inquiry.
To a very significant extent the separate paths of ecology
and economics in recent times is the cause of our problem.
According to Hundloe we must not let it be a fatal flaw.
We need to re-unite these disciplines.

Fox,

In your rush to bury any post with evidence your leftist cultural elitism finds inconvenient, you obviously don't bother to read what you are linking to.

To take one example, your 'expert' link says, "Rental yields in Australia are moderate", which disproves those allegations you made about all of those rapacious politicians who own property, want high property prices and don't care about tenants.

House prices cannot go up where there is flagging, or no demand.

To repeat, outside of the political parties and their lobbyists there is NO collective agreement that big is better and growthism is good.

Further, there is NO collective decision that a huge population, teeming cities and endless 'diversity-we-are obliged -to-have' as an end in itself (so the elitist leftists can rub the noses of the 'whites' in it) are required and good.

In fact the public want the exact opposite. Which would also see quality of life maintained, far more reasonable prices and a welcome relief for State Premiers (past examples being Labor's Anna Bligh and Bob Carr) who have been complaining for many years about over-the-top immigration numbers.

I wish people that want to take part in an adult
discussion would base their arguments on
facts, not on their opinions, and cut the insults.

In the link I gave in my previous post it
quite clearly states that -

"Sydney rents continue to rise despite records
activity from investors over the past year
and remain the highest of all the state capitals"
says APM's Dr Wilson. "The median asking rent for
houses increased to a new peak of $520 per week
for an overall increase of 4 per cent in 2014
despite a surge in the supply of new apartments .
Sydney unit rents increased over the quarter
regaining the previous high ..."

"Upward pressure on rents is set to continue through 2015
part of the robust Sydney market..."

It is always best to read the full link to get and
appreciate the full picture.

Also there are many factors given by the experts
by way of explanating the increase in house prices.
Just focusing on one area is nonsense and not only
illogical it is not based on the other contributing
factors.

Fox,

The link says 'moderate' and you are on your back foot.

Any increase in rents in Sydney is due to rental demand, NOT house prices in any event.

The demand is high BECAUSE the over-supply of migrants ends up in the larger metropolitan cities and Sydney is as usual taking the biggest hit.

Labor's Bob Carr had a lot to say about over-zealous immigration when he was Premier of NSW. The feds don't have to deal with the unforeseen (by the feds) costs and negative consequences Carr said and he was right.

When he was Foreign Minister, Bob Carr AND other Labor frontbenchers strongly criticised Labor's failed asylum-seeker policies, where a large proportion of asylum-seekers were known to be merely economic migrants.

Any charge of 'elitism' must be laid at the feet of fools like Rudd and his 'Big Australia' with the culturally-cringing leftists' idealism of 'endless-diversity-Australia-is-obliged-to-have' (that the electorate strongly objects to).

It is damned unfortunate for young working couples that they are being required to put off or shelve the family and future they planned and worked so hard for. All to provide transport, energy, water and other infrastructure plus Medicare and welfare for far too many migrants. That IS discrimination - against young Aussie working couples who cannot have the few children they planned for.

Now the urgers are hoping to increase immigration to new record levels.

You yourself admitted earlier, (Fox) "All the evidence suggests that we must turn around population growth and aim for a much smaller population than we have today".

How do you expect to do that and take the tax and council rates burdens off young working Australian couples who are being forced to shoulder the costs of that world overpopulation you keep referring to? You are actively discriminating against young working Australians who should never be required to solve the over-fertility (and denial of women's rights) problems of other countries.