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Scott McIntyre, freedom of Speech martyr or dumbass
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Posted by Bazz, Tuesday, 5 May 2015 7:42:11 AM
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Paul1405,
Public agencies have codes of conduct, as do private companies. That is in response to identified risks, one of which is embarrassment, resulting for instance in lowering of the credibility, standing and good name of the organisation - that have been hard fought through exemplary public contact and service provision. It would typical of the demographic of the NSW Trotskyist Greens 'Protest Party' that rule-breaking and public offence are encouraged where it affects others, hopefully bring them and their 'traditional' societal institutions into disrepute. However it is different where the Greens themselves are affected isn't it, where you immediately lapse into compulsion, the lock-step of the left and heaven help anyone who questions or transgresses against Greens' ideology, because they will be showered with abuse and demands made for their resignation and public humiliation. The Greens are just a protest party, opportunists, nothing more. Posted by onthebeach, Tuesday, 5 May 2015 10:03:10 AM
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Paul,
Your post is typical in that your first line accuses OTB of agreeing with the SBS code of conduct without reading it, which is firstly irrelevant in that is a contractual agreement (and in that a standard clause in most companies employment contracts) between SM and the SBS, and secondly it is false in that OTB has not offered any opinion on it. Your second line is wishful conjecture as to who notified the communications Minister, especially since it falls into MT's ambit the probability is that he was informed by his department long before anyone else knew. Then finally you link to an opinion piece by a far left writer that attacks the decision to sack SM by ignoring the reasons that he actually got fired, primarily: 1 Much of what he tweeted was deliberately offensive, ie implying that supporters of Anzacs were alcoholic morons, 2 Much of it was factually incorrect, ie Turkey had unilaterally declared war on Britain and its allies before the Gallipoli invasion, 3 After being contacted by SBS management and asked to take down the offensive material that breached SBS code of conduct he refused. I am sure that if he had expressed his opinions in not such a deliberately offensive manner or not defied his management he would still be employed today. Useful reading: http://media.sbs.com.au/home/upload_media/site_20_rand_628860615_sbs_social_media_protocol_2011.pdf https://twitter.com/mcintinhos Posted by Shadow Minister, Tuesday, 5 May 2015 11:00:33 AM
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Shadow I have only made one post on this thread, and I did not offer an opinion on the sacking of McIntyre, one way or the other.
Beach posted "McIntyre defied the (SBS) code of conduct" "Agreed" I simply asked Beach, was his agreement based on a knowledge of the SBS 'Code of Conduct' or was he simply agreeing from a point of ignorance. I supposed he had not laid eyes on the code. From his response my assumption looks to be correct. he agrees with something he has never seen or read. Jay, would an historian be in breach of 18c If he was to say the Spanish treated the Aztecs badly etc etc. Like the historian, McIntyre insults people who are all now not here. McIntyre's reference to the 'largely whites' in itself did not seem offensive more an observation on McIntyre's part, with drinking and gambling being an intricate part of ANZAC Day. Interesting that the 'Usual Suspects' on the forum, who normally can be relied upon to kick the stuffing out of SBS, seeing it as a foreign version of the ABC, are now their bosom buddies. This will only last until SBS says something nice about Muslims, Aboriginals or Gays, then this mob will be calling for SBS blood, and wanting Abbott to shut the joint down. With hindsight, maybe McIntyre might have been better off sticking to the round ball game and leaving 'Twetter' alone. Turnbull might not be PM, but he can still pull rank. Posted by Paul1405, Tuesday, 5 May 2015 8:15:06 PM
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Paul,
While in your post you did not directly state your opinion, you left no doubt as your disagreement with SM's sacking. No one incl OTB or myself had commented on the validity or fairness of the code of conduct as frankly it was irrelevant. The COC is a contractual agreement between the SBS and all its employees, and attracts a penalty if broken. SM not only broke the code, but refused to remove his comments, and most likely left his employers little option. Hence the reason I think he is a dumbass. Posted by Shadow Minister, Wednesday, 6 May 2015 2:55:13 PM
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Well I don't think that he is a dumb ass, asses are fairly intelligent animals as are their relatives, mules.
Of course Scott McIntyre may be a dumb arse for making offensive remarks , but if he breached his terms of employment and got sacked then he has no one to blame but himself; if his employer offered him a way out and he didn't take it then he is a dumb arse indeed. It would seem that he had his own program and stuck to it. I do dislike Americanisms creeping into our speech and writing. Posted by Is Mise, Wednesday, 6 May 2015 3:24:44 PM
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You just cannot defy the boss and get away with it.