@Jay Of Melbourne, Saturday, 2 May 2015 11:54:46 AM,

The Gay Liberation Front Manifesto London, 1971, revised 1978 you linked to betrays the unmistakable hand of the radical Marxist and gender feminists, and their primary agenda of societal disruption and overthrow.

Young, naive, self-obsessed Gay Pride followers got it wrong, as did the lazy leftie homosexuals. They were very short-sighted to allow the Marxist feminists to bully and wrest the tiller away from them. Nothing like some attention to make easy gulls, especially where men are concerned.

I'm not sure if this will help - but
the following link gives 12 explanations
about marriage equality:

http://www.australianmarriageequality.org/12-reasons-why-marriage-equality-matters

There are a number of existing alternatives to traditional
marriage and family arrangements, such as single-parent
families, cohabitation, serial monogamy, reconstituted families,
childless couples, communes, "open" marriage, gay couples and
gay-parent families, and remaining single.

Many people continue to marry, however, and although a range
of alternatives is likely to be tolerated in the context of
growing individualism of post-industrial societies - some
people still view their own patterns of marriage, family,
and kinship as self-evidently right and proper, (and usually
God given as well).

Much of the current concern about the fate of the modern
family and the institution of marriage stems from this kind
of ethnocentrism. Those that assume there is only one "right"
family and marriage form, will naturally interpret any
change as heralding the doom of the whole institution.

A conscience vote by politicians, and a Referendum, would
settle the matter.

Foxy writes

' Those that assume there is only one "right"
family and marriage form, will naturally interpret any
change as heralding the doom of the whole institution'

and those who want to promote the unnatural order of things will demonise those with decency and be dumb enough to ask why our Western civilsation is crumbling. Obviously they care little about future generations or the right for children to a mother and father. Another 'stolen' generation will have to be apologised to.

Dear runner,

Kindly supply us with evidence to your claims.
No credible study has ever been found that
children are negatively impacted by being
raised in a lesbian or gay household.

Jay, you are getting desperate, quoting from the Jesuits of all people, hardly likely to present unbiased facts, now are they.
Going back to the 1970's, things have moved on from there. I am surprise your not quoting from 'Mein Kampf' on the subject. But I got to say most of your posts are interesting, and you do offer something different.

Poor old Beach is again in a total spin, confusing his Marxist/Feminists with his Feminists/Marxist, forever the believer in some great commie plot to bring down the world as we know it. Conspiracies abound in this blokes mind.

Runner, no one has a problem with your version of marriage and families, its the other way around. To you based on your religious belief, not only does everyone else have to accept your moral standards on marriage and families, they have to embrace them as well, or burn in hell.

Is Mise, you remind me of 'Horace Rumpole' and "she who must be obeyed." A couple of my all time favorites, both you on the forum, and Rumpole on TV.

Hippie, there is not much to say, unless Jay admits to wearing a pink tie or something. He will have to give you the answer to satisfy your curiosity.

Foxy and Susie, All I can say is thanks, after reading the rubbish, (see above) I come to your posts, and they restore my faith in this forum, that at least two people post things of value, for the rest of us to read. Thanks again.

Suse,

"Is Mise, if anyone feels their own marriage would be affected in any way by gay people being able to get legally married, then they most certainly don't have very good marriages in the first place!"

That is not what I said; comprehension failing you again?