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Abbott on the UN report on Human Rights in Australia.
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Posted by onthebeach, Friday, 13 March 2015 5:36:49 PM
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Dear ConservativeHippie,
From reading your post it appears that you have bought the myths being spread about asylum seekers. Kindly read the following link which explains the realities: http://www.news.com.au/world/ten-myths-around-asylum-seekers-arriving-on-boats-in-australian=waters/story-fndr2ev-1226676024840 Posted by Foxy, Friday, 13 March 2015 8:29:13 PM
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Dear ConservativeHippie, I forgot to add that you have surprised me. The organisations that have criticised Australia's treatment of asylum seekers are listed in the links I gave you which you claim you couldn't find. Try again. Beginning on page 2 of the first link for starters and go from there. Cheers. Posted by Foxy, Friday, 13 March 2015 8:42:28 PM
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Fox,
You persist in using the politically correct 'asylum seeker'. However the site you gushed about as a "a leading online current affairs magazine.. of a very high standard" uses the correct 'illegal immigrants'. See here (where PM Abbott is also lauded to putting the people smugglers out of business, which unsurprisingly you also in denial about), http://thediplomat.com/2013/12/people-smugglers-feel-the-pinch/ Posted by onthebeach, Friday, 13 March 2015 9:41:37 PM
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otb,
No - I persist in using the correct term. You do not. The link you gave is about the smuggling trade. All I can do is politely suggest to you to read the link given in my previous post about the ten myths surrounding asylum seekers. And, if you still have any doubts I suggest you contact the Human Rights Commission on the issue - you can Google it. I shall repeat that asylum seekers who arrive in Australia by boat are neither engaging in illegal activity, nor are they immigrants. The UN Refugee Convention (to which Australia is a signatory) recognises that refugees have a right to enter a country for the puposes of seeking asylum, regardless of how they arrive or whether they hold valid identity documents. Australian law also permits unauthorised entry into Australia for the purposes of seeking asylum. Asylum seekers do not break any Australian laws simply by arriving on boats or without authorisation. Australia has a proud history of boat people and other asylum seekers becoming good citizens. 88 percent of asylum seekers have been found to be genuine refugees in the past. Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 14 March 2015 9:37:23 AM
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Foxy the UNCHR does not recognize these people as Asylum Seekers, Refugees, yes, but Asylum Seekers, No. The reason is that once they have left the first place of Safe Refuge they no longer qualify if they leave. They then become Economic Migrants.
Article 31 refugees unlawfully in the country of refugee 1. The Contracting States shall not impose penalties, on account of their illegal entry or presence, on refugees who, coming directly from a territory where their life or freedom was threatened in the sense of article 1, ("Coming directly" is the Key here.) 62 (f) Economic migrants distinguished from refugees 62. A migrant is a person who, for reasons other than those contained in the definition, voluntarily leaves his country in order to take up residence elsewhere. He may be moved by the desire for change or adventure, or by family or other reasons of a personal nature. If he is moved exclusively by economic considerations, he is an economic migrant and not a refugee. (or leaving the UNCHR Camp for a better life else ware.) A person from the Local Village who just wants to earn money for his family back in Sri Lanka does not qualify as a refugee. The UNCHR should be looking after these people & providing the Camps. Not the Australian Government. Posted by Jayb, Saturday, 14 March 2015 10:06:12 AM
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This was the inheritance from Rudd, Gillard and the Greens,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0MHRSFz6FM