Fox,

Typically, since you could not counter the facts given in the article in The Daily Telegraph, you disrespect the author to poison the well. However, the evidence quoted in the article comes from Hicks' own letters and photos of him.

There was an article in The Australian, Self Styled Jihadi David Hicks is No Innocent Abroad, that reached similar conclusions.

Along with all leftist 'Progressives' you struggle when morals and ethics are raised. The quote in my earlier post is relevant,

"The left exists in a moral vacuum. And once a moral discussion begins, the left evaporates, rather quickly. So too would the woman hating muslims evaporate. Try it. Try having a moral discussion with a leftist. Ask one to think in moral terms. And they will ask you, who's morals. Because they see nothing moral, anywhere. They only see politics."
[onthebeach, Sunday, 22 February 2015 11:36:29 AM]

"My dear Poirot,

How does this make you feel ?"

It makes me feel like I'm being addressed by a person with weak debating skills - who resorts to puerile underhand sleights to get his jollies.

(And, while I'm here, I've always been curious as to why you place a space between the final letter of your sentence and a question mark?)

BTT!

Whatev, Po

BTT.

Foxy, come off it, you know very well that Hicks was in Afghanistan before and after 9/11 - what, as a tourist ? - no, you know he was there to work with terrorist organisations. He had already done so, hadn't he, in Pakistan, shooting - he claims - hundreds of rounds at Indian troops. Isn't that so ?

I don't give a toss about whether or not such terrorist acts were crimes under Australian or American law at the time, he got off, goodo, he was lucky they weren't crimes at the time, but you and I know very well that he was guilty of the intention of committing harm to Indians at least.

He was associating with the planner of terrorist attacks in Tanzania, Kenya, Yemen, and elsewhere - isn't that so ? He went to Afghanistan expressly to meet Osama bin Laden, isn't that so ? If he fought for the Kosovo Liberation movement and for the Bosnians, I applaud him for that, but not for his actions and intentions in Afghanistan and on the Pakistan-Indian border, nor for his vile and pig-ignorant comments about Jews.

He got off. He should slink back into anonymity, and hide under his rock - if the other invertebrates can put up with him.

Joe

Loudmouth,

"I don't give a toss about whether or not such terrorist acts were crimes under Australian or American law at the time..."

Do you believe in the rule of law and due process?

So would you welcome being charged with something that wasn't actually a crime under the law of your country?

How would you feel about being imprisoned and tortured for five years under those circumstances?

otb,

You've always criticised the sources that I have
used and yet when the failings of your sources
are pointed out - then that's a No, No.

You go right
ahead with supporting News Corp and their journalists.
I prefer journalists who do not commit factual
errors and who do not follow a set political agenda.

Dear Joe (Loudmouth),

I have no control over what you and others choose to believe.
There's been a host of misfinformation about the
David Hicks case and I have spent a great deal of time
discussing this subject. I don't care to continue
to do so.

I would also appreciate it if you dropped your "endearments."
They are beginning to annoy.

Poirot/Foxy,

He got off on a technicality, and you know it. He intended to work with terrorists, he worked with terrorists, he fired on Indian troops, he associated with Osama bin Laden, he worked for the Taliban. No, he did not commit any crimes in Australian or American law since what he did weren't crimes then, and they may be now. But you know very well that what he did was at least highly immoral.

Yes, by his getting off on a technicality, the terrorists and their supporters can shove a stick up the arse of the Americans. But you know that what he did was wrong. If he did the same today, he most certainly would do some more time in Guantanamo, and fair enough.

Joe