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Celebrities and terrorism - where are they?
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Posted by NathanJ, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 4:09:45 PM
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Nathan J,
How quaint, you think Lebanese and Afghan boys listen to Kylie Minogue and Guy Sebastian or would take on board anything said by a raving homo like Ian Thorpe or a Hollywood whore like Delta Goodrem. Hey maybe you could recruit "Hektik" LOL: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAdd1a-nljA Lebbo "youths" listen to "doof", gangster rap and Lebanese pop and they watch Lebanese TV on sattelite, Salafists don't listen to music or watch TV at all. These are the idols of "Western Oriental" youths: http://jihadology.net/2014/07/28/al-furqan-media-presents-a-new-video-message-from-the-islamic-state-upon-the-prophetic-methodology/ When ISIS are producing recruiting videos this cool nothing in the peurile Western anti-culture is going to even be noticed by potential mujahideen. Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 10:22:28 PM
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Dear Nathan,
Your suggestion of young Muslims being influenced by famous people in Australia is not a bad one. However I think that a greater impact would be made if the advice given to them came from their fellow Muslims - who have made an enormous contribution to society in this country through their professional careers - which according to the link given below ranges from sport to the military, politics and the top of the corporate ladder. There's 15 listed in all beginning with Ahmed Fahour - Managing Director and CEO of Australia Post, Executive Chairman of Startrack, and the Director of the Carlton Football Club. He was also CEO of the Australian operations of the National Australia Bank - 2004 - 2009. He was born in Lebanon. You can read more at the following: http://www.businessinsider.com.au/15-famous-australians-you-may-not-have-known-were-muslim-2014-11 Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 11:08:37 PM
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And there in lies the problem Foxy and Nathan, young lebs don't listen to their so called leaders.
Where young reckless Aussies, of all nationalities, want to get pissed and fight each other, or get stoned and vege out, young lebs who go off the rails want to inflict mass pain and suffering and insil maximum fear. This is why Muslimisum is a failure. Not multiculturalism, just Muslimisim and it has happened everywhere they have gone to. What more evidence do we need? Posted by rehctub, Thursday, 22 January 2015 6:01:18 AM
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Foxy,
Yes, being raised Muslim then abandoning the faith to pursue other interests doesn't appear to be a handicap for the minority of intelligent people to be found in the Muslim world. What about the majority of Muslims who are as dumb as a rock, illiterate and unreasonable by nature, fundamentalist Islam was designed to keep these chickenheads under control, why not go with what works? Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Thursday, 22 January 2015 9:41:35 AM
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All the group hugs and kumbaiya in the world won't change a Muslim youth's viewpoint once they've seen the light of extremism.
Offering free one way airfares to Syria in exchange for a cancelled Australian passport on departure (and cancelled citizenship) is my first option for dealing with the dysfunctional Muslim youth. Get them as far away from Australia as possible. Posted by ConservativeHippie, Thursday, 22 January 2015 10:18:21 AM
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Gentlemen,
Thank You for the valid points you've raised and I certainly don't have the answers to the problems you've pointed out. I was merely offering an alternative suggestion to what Nathan was proposing that I thought might influence these people work better than Kylie Minogue. It's worth a shot - and even if only a few are saved - isn't that better than more lost. Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 22 January 2015 10:28:36 AM
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'How quaint, you think Lebanese and Afghan boys listen to Kylie Minogue and Guy Sebastian or would take on board anything said by a raving homo like Ian Thorpe or a Hollywood whore like Delta Goodrem.'
Yes Jay most of the local muslims boys have tried this secular lifestyle only to find out that it is extremely hollow and is in itself a death cult. That is why it is hilarous/pathetic/sad to watch feminist on shows like Q&A trying to offer advice to these muslims. They don't realise how much they are despised. Posted by runner, Thursday, 22 January 2015 11:59:08 AM
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Runner,
Skip to the 8:00 mark in the video I posted and tell me that's not "badass" as the kids would say. Four mujahideen in a Hilux with a heavy machine gun mounted on the back charge a column of armoured Humvees who have a clear advantage in terrain and the cover of fortifications,you can see in the distance the government troops spinning their wheels in reverse gear to get away from them. Sorry Foxy and Nathan but If I was 30 years younger I'd have a hard time not being impressed by that video, in fact when I was a teenager in the 1980's we used to cheer on the Afghan Mujahideen who were fighting the Russians and "corrrr" over their bravery and derring do on the battlefield. Whatever you think of ISIS they've got dash, they've got character and "balls of steel", qualities which have been pounded out of Western males over the last five decades. Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Thursday, 22 January 2015 12:24:17 PM
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The whole idea of this proposal is to get young people's minds away from extremists or bad behaviour - and it can make a real difference, despite what some might say. My original comments were into celebrities in general - some in music, film scenes and other areas.
The reason I said this, is because many young people aren't going to care about a countries Prime Minister - because they are simply seen as "boring". That's an understatement. I have a nephew, Jordan. He has always loved Micheal Jordan - as a basketball player - since school age and played basketball right through to high school. His room was covered in posters of MJ and being of Aboriginal background - he's felt connected. Good schooling is needed and the federal governments program for youth is a waste of taxpayers money. Other options are needed. Students spend so much time at school - so better school options are required. People can see some celebrities (you may not know) who are Muslim (or have converted) at: http://www.albawaba.com/slideshow/famous-muslim-converts--550560. Also some celebrities, like Nicole Kidman - have taken out full page advertisements opposing terrorism in expensive overseas newspapers. We need these people (in many ways) - more than the government. Good films with high class celebrities can help KILL the terrorism industry. Posted by NathanJ, Thursday, 22 January 2015 1:45:18 PM
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Nathan,
You just don't get it do you? Here, watch this video, it explains everything: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHhM7QAi9xU There's "Islam" and there's Islam, Negro celebrities invariably follow Elijah Mohammed and his heretical successors. And how is a young indigenous kid supposed to identify with Negroes any more than with Whites and what's more why would you want him looking up to degenerates like Mike Tyson and Ice Cube and not Australians like Briggs? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uehivnJjaas This is just brilliant, Briggs & Gurrumul: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7o15LOxTGOY More contemporary Australian music K21 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiU56apmx3E Bliss n Eso http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfLa32K74Zw Tornts http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEQSVEs6-cY Vents http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8-Wz3C_8LY The Funkoars http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICQ7JSCBZn0 Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Thursday, 22 January 2015 3:09:06 PM
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Hmmm the extreemists recently decapitated a group of youths who watched a soccer match.
What would they do for watching Kylie ? Posted by Bazz, Thursday, 22 January 2015 4:50:18 PM
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Jay of Melbourne says:
"why would you want him looking up to degenerates like Mike Tyson and Ice Cube". "Man, as a country kid, you just try and get into everything," he said. (Briggs) "Otherwise you're just bored. Growing up, Tupac was massive, and Ice Cube and Snoop were all massive and that's where it came from - they all looked super cool." From: http://www.abc.net.au/triplej/musicnews/s4075528.htm So he didn't get something from Ice Cube? These aren't my comments - they are his. Young people can and get good things from high profile people - not plastic prime ministers. You may however be (Jay) are referring to 'Briggs' - being (Mr Jamie Briggs) my local member of Federal Parliament. Don't know. We need celebrities, of all nations, well educated individuals and high profile people on stage making a five star performance, to make a difference. Political leaders are simply thinking about winning the next election. My rating for that performance - zero. Posted by NathanJ, Thursday, 22 January 2015 6:50:07 PM
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No, we do not need celebrities or anyone else telling our youth about terrorism or any other rubbish or BS they see or hear in their lives.
What they need is to learn or acquire the ability to think critically, clearly, objectively and thus independently about all the hype on anything, anywhere in this world and not follow in the steps of the rest of the brainwashed "mob". This inability to exercise and apply critical thinking skills is a failure of the education and family systems in place today in this country right now. No amount of 'hero' worshiping in the likes of mortal humans will solve anything. Posted by Rojama, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 12:06:54 PM
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So why aren't Australian celebrities like Shane Warne, Guy Sebastian, Kylie Minogue, Elle McPherson, Ian Thorpe and Delta Goodrem doing more to get young people away from terrorism and extremist groups?
There are also bands aimed at young people and you can hear music at: http://www.theguardian.com/culture/australia-culture-blog/2014/jan/02/ten-australian-bands-to-watch-in-2014 which WILL turn young people's minds OFF terrorism.
Young people, in particular and others in Australia are NOT going to listen to Prime Minister Tony Abbott, but they will take celebrities 100% on board.