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Shadow, things develop quickly on the world stage, and poor old Tone's been left out in the cold once more. Seems China and the US have struck an ambitious deal to cut carbon emissions. Obama didn't bother to run it by Tone first for the okay, strange that. Do you think Tone should 'shirt front' Obama on over than one. LOL
The deal between the worlds two biggest economies has been nine months in the making.

Check this one out Tone's not even in the picture.

http://www.smh.com.au/environment/climate-change/us-china-reach-carbon-emissions-deal-20141112-11l2ro.html

Australia is now very much out of step with the rest of the world when it comes to climate action.
Is the best we can offer a maybe 5% cut in emissions on 2000 levels by 2020. The US has promised a 26% to 28% cut on 2005 levels by 2025. 20% of China's total energy to be renewable by 2030. Others, Britain has promised 80% cut on 1990 levels by 2050 and 20% achieved by 2020. Even Abbott's mates in Canada are up for 17% cut on 2005 levels by 2020, although Canada may not reach the 17% target, but it will be well above Australia's 5%. New name for Tone, 'The Isolated Abbott'.
Posted by Paul1405, Thursday, 13 November 2014 11:04:48 AM
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Do you think that kind of stupidity, [or intentional damage], Obama is displaying just might have something to do the flogging he & his lefty party copped at their election?

I suppose the greens will score OK by keeping the stupid Labor mob holding their silly policies, but don't expect to get back into power with them. Sensible people will run a mile from carbon taxes, & boat people when they have to put their mark on a ballot paper.
Posted by Hasbeen, Thursday, 13 November 2014 12:00:43 PM
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Paul,

I love the way that the greens grasp at straws. What most experienced veterans take away from the "climate agreement" is that both China and the US have pledged aspirational goals, both which largely will be achieved without any carbon pricing.

The US's emissions are presently dropping because of the rapid expansion of cheap coal seam gas (which the greens are blocking in Aus) which is replacing the aging coal fired plants with cheaper energy, and China which is energy poor and building whatever they can get their hands on including 200 odd nuclear reactors (which the greens are also blocking), a coal fired plant a week and plenty of renewables. In spite of this China's emissions will keep growing until 2030.

So no TA is not stranded.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Thursday, 13 November 2014 3:01:58 PM
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The "Theodore Roosevelt" aircraft carrier, at 104,000 long tons, would be more than adequate to host the G20 Summit; the delegates +++ could be flown on board and security and protesters would be no problem and the people of Brisbane could be left alone to enjoy their boring city.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Theodore_Roosevelt_(CVN-71)
Posted by Is Mise, Thursday, 13 November 2014 6:12:59 PM
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Oh come on Is Mise, with no luxury limousines, or penthouse suites full of hot & cold dancing girls, you couldn't possibly have a summit in such low a brow environment.

Hell, haven't you heard, our navy has it's newest & most luxurious ship, with accommodation much better than ever seen for our defence force previously, up at Manus to house the bureaucrats minding the boat people up there.

There was talk of them going on strike due to the poor conditions they believed our navy's best was.

Come to think of it, perhaps the best venue would be that camp on Manus Island. It might bring some of these people back to earth for a few minutes.

Can you imagine a Saudi prince, in his white dress camping in a tent on manus? Brings a smile to my face, just thinking about it.
Posted by Hasbeen, Thursday, 13 November 2014 7:25:26 PM
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Paul
>the Mad Monk himself, Tony Baloney.
>Our Tone at the official banquette, yelling out
>Tone's been caught out again, hiding things!
>on what The Mad Monk or any other leader
>and poor old Tone's been left out in the cold
>Check this one out Tone's not even in the picture.
Albie
>Yes with Fuhrer Abbott at the helm of the ship of fools,
Posted by Bazz, Thursday, 13 November 2014 8:29:29 PM
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