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On Being a Good Atheist

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Interesting Site steelie.

I noted in this one.

http://www.pewforum.org/2014/07/16/how-americans-feel-about-religious-groups/pf_14-07-16_interreligiousrelations_totalratings1/

That Jews, 63 Catholic, 62 & Evangelical Christian, 61, are at the top of the list in that order & Atheist at 41 & moslems at 40 the lowest.

This is an American Site & I'm sure Australians have a lot different take on ranking Religions. In fact I don't think, other than a few old Traditional, that anybody really cares. One thing for sure moslems would be down around the 20 Mark in Australia & Atheists much further up the pole. Americans tend to be very much Tribalists. They are still fighting the War between North & the South.

It depends on where the polls were taken. In the Mid West they hate everyone that is not Evangelical Christian, The Southern Baptists & Pentacolists hate everybody. Then there are Mormons, Amish, Millerite's, Mennonites, Quakers & a dozen Orthodox Christian Groups. Where do they stand?

This Site has no relationship to Australians.
Posted by Jayb, Monday, 6 October 2014 6:12:07 PM
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Hippie, it's impossible for me to know with 100% certainty that I am correct. The same applies to every other living being. The same applies to the correctness or non correctness of every single conclusion, theory, belief, experiment etc in existence. THAT'S the very basis of science itself. Unlike many aspects of many ancient superstitions, science is 100% capable of change when new empirical evidence is presented, in fact science actively seeks the empirical evidence and indeed DOES change, often.

You wrote, "That's a negative possibility". No it isn't. It's a recognition of the factual reality that there's often 2 sides to many so called pieces of "wisdom". In other words, people often "claim" wisdom, when in fact it can be something quite different, and the opposite also applies. Certain so called "wisdom" can be good for some people, and bad for other people. YOUR wisdom may be perfectly suited to you, and another person's wisdom may be totally unsuitable for you. It's not about wisdom being negative or positive, it's about the factual reality of the actual application of wisdom regardless of what that factual reality is, or isn't.

Or to simplify, one person's heretic and dangerous idiot, can sometimes be another person's wise old man.
Posted by May May, Monday, 6 October 2014 7:41:44 PM
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MayMay you haven't convinced me about anything other than you love to argue and you aren't going to try to see another view point than your own, even if you don't believe what you are arguing.

I give up, you win on everything, all threads on OLO. I'm glad we didn't get the chance to lock horns on the climate debate.

Have a nice life.
Posted by ConservativeHippie, Monday, 6 October 2014 8:28:53 PM
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Hippie, I wasn't trying to "convince" you. Why do you think that? I was presenting my perspective, just as you were presenting your perspective. THAT'S what exchange of ideas is all about. The tolerance of difference is the basis of a free society and is a very precious thing. Everybody has the right to express their ideas, and anyone else has the equal right to oppose those views. Thus, you have every right to oppose my views or to have different views.

The world will never be as one, there will ALWAYS be difference. And the way forward to peace and understanding is the acceptance that people will always be different. The acceptance of difference, and the freedom to express difference (non violently of course) is the way forward to a better and more peaceful world.
Posted by May May, Monday, 6 October 2014 8:45:05 PM
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MM:. And the way forward to peace and understanding is the acceptance that people will always be different. The acceptance of difference, and the freedom to express difference (non violently of course) is the way forward to a better and more peaceful world.

You & I & everybody here might be will to do that. Good luck convincing your moslem friends to do that though. Oh they will, but only if we all convert to Islam. Nah... then they'll start killing anyone that thinks different to all of their different sects anyway.

Ah... huh... Ah well... (sighs)
Posted by Jayb, Monday, 6 October 2014 9:09:58 PM
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Jayb is fresh from watching Andrew Bolt yesterday. Then Jayb got up this morning and went to the newsagent to get his latest copy of the Daily Telegraph. After that he listened to 3 hours of Alan Jones. Then he went onto the internet this arvo to listen to the last few programmes from Rush Limbaugh. Jayb is such an independent thinker.
Posted by May May, Monday, 6 October 2014 9:32:14 PM
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