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Brave Scotland,
In a few days Scotland will vote to put back the clock three hundred years or go forward and become a new multicultural country.
Scots have populated the British Empire and given the world its brains.
From Engineers to Doctors, arguably the best are Scots and their descendants.
Many who were left behind did not have the same ideas and have made many areas of Scotland "no go"areas.
During the Commonwealth Games in Glasgow,a curfew was imposed on youths in Glasgow poorer suburbs.
Anwar Sarwar,the deputy leader of the Scottish Labour Party,and one of the major players in the Yes vote.
Sarwar,a Muslim, wants to open Scotland to all Refugees.
His bid to populate Scotland is widely praised by Refugee Advocates.
Anwar's father a prominent Scot, denounced his British citizenship last year and has become a Punjab National.
Sushma Swaraj,External Affairs Minister for India, a close friend of the Sarwar family is under attack for supporting Scottish Independence.
The future of an independent Scotland looks bleak for Scottish workers, as wage rates will drop as the flood of cheap labour arrive at air and seaports.
Posted by BROCK, Monday, 15 September 2014 12:23:15 PM
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Och! Aye!
Posted by Is Mise, Monday, 15 September 2014 2:40:51 PM
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I will guarantee if they saw the videos and reports of the low lifers we have come here they would not want the refugees.

Any country should be able to choose the refugees that come not the refugees come and we have to look after them for life at the expense of our own people.
Posted by Philip S, Monday, 15 September 2014 2:45:38 PM
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Phillip S,
That's the least of their problems, what people don't understand is that these so called "Nationalists" as exemplified by Tommy Sheridan and Mhairie Black are basically a bunch of stupid neo Communists spinning the same old tired load of socialist bollocks.
What'll end up happening after a yes vote is that they'll have to go to Brussels cap in hand and then accept whatever terms the EU bandit state dictates...some independance.
So yeah, they may well need refugees in the short term just to keep basic services running because there's going to be an exodus of young Scots wanting a "better life", or just a life full stop.
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Monday, 15 September 2014 6:08:43 PM
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The people of Scotland will decide what they want.

I wish them All The Best no matter what they decide.

And I envy them this opportunity in being able to
vote on whether they want to be an Independent
Nation, or still remain a part of the UK.

Interesting times ahead and who knows where it will end.
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 15 September 2014 7:06:12 PM
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This is sad lets get some facts right.
1 Anas Sarwar is campaigning for the NO vote as is the Scottish labour party.

http://www.scottishlabour.org.uk/blog/entry/time-for-the-silent-majority-to-find-its-voice1

2 Yes he is Muslim but that does not make him a radical jihadist. Nor does it have any relevance to the Scottish referendum.

3 England is scared of losing the oil revenue from the North Sea, which more than compensates for the fact that the Scottish pay less in tax then they receive from the UK government. (24 billion barrels of oil equivalent is a nice little earner)

4 The population of Scotland is aging and that is the reason that the Scottish national party favours immigration. I think it is likely they would be looking to Europe for skilled migrants.

5 There are plenty of smart people in Scotland and while they don’t build ships as in the past, there are plenty of skilled engineers building oil rigs. They also have some pretty canny investment funds.

6 Despite my points above, I do not have an opinion as to whether the Scots should go it alone or not, but given some the BS that is being spouted by the no camp I would not be surprised if it did not produce a backlash.
Posted by warmair, Monday, 15 September 2014 9:30:31 PM
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And yes WARMAIR...'Canny' they may be, but they're also very belligerent Trade Unionist's, some even on the periphery of communism ? In my 'personal' opinion, never trust a Scot !
Posted by o sung wu, Tuesday, 16 September 2014 1:42:47 PM
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Things are looking quite interesting in Scotland.

According to articles found on the web - Yes and
No votes are now running neck and neck so it looks
like being a close call. One article suggests that
trust in their politicians could prove crucial as
the referendum campaign reaches its climax.

According to a recent poll it seems that Yes campaign
leaders are trusted a bit more than those on the No
side to deliver for Scotland. But things can change.

Questions that are being asked are - Will the No
campaign leaders put the interests of the Westminister
Establishment ahead of the people of Scotland?
Will the Yes campaign leaders always put Scotland
first?

Which of them can really be trusted to stand up for
Scotland's interests?
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 16 September 2014 2:42:18 PM
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The Scottish communist party has 280 members out of a population of 5,254,800. I just don't think they are relevant.

The brief time I spent in Scotland I thoroughly enjoyed and was treated with much more courtesy than I received in England where I was abused on two occasions for no good reason other than I had an Aussie accent.

When the polls are close one way to get an idea as to which way it will go is to look up the odds being quoted by the betting agencies which strongly favour the no vote.

It is clear that the UK government is seriously ratelled by the possibialty that the Scots might vote for independence. It looks to me that Scots will do well whatever the outcome.
Posted by warmair, Tuesday, 16 September 2014 9:32:30 PM
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Scotland is interesting for the mob politics being played there. We get the same, with sometimes quite irrational and even totally misrepresented and fraudulent views being championed by the clever, sinister types who use Marxist strategies to sway public opinion (of the mob at least).

It is only the freedom of speech that is so opposed by the Left 'Progressive' cultism and time for the fraud and negative consequences to be exposed, that can counteract the gathering storm.

I have no stake in what happens there, however if I had any investments in Scotland I would be demanding a premium for the risks of the untried separatism. More likely I would be working hard right now to move the investment $$ elsewhere and well away from any impact.

It is good to watch the fostering and management of the mob from a distance, any voices of reason being drowned out by the mobbing by noisy protesters who seemingly spring up spur of the moment, but are cleverly organised by serial nuisances with mobile phones.

For years, Scotland has had too many people on the dole, especially the large rump who now have a family history of dependence on government. The forecast of the Deutsche Bank and others is that 'Scottish independence would bring austerity on a scale never seen before'. The hipster left trendies who organised the mobs will not be there to admit fault and pick up the pieces.
Posted by onthebeach, Wednesday, 17 September 2014 8:42:28 AM
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WARMAIR,
Lets get some facts right,
1.Anas Sawar is deputy Leader Of the Scottish labour Party,He therefore is one of the leading supporters for the Yes Vote.
2.Only you mentioned that he was not a Radical Jihardist,Calling somebody a Muslim does not imply they are radical jihardist,unless you know more than me.
The relevance to the referendum is that the Muslim religion will replace Christianity in Scotland quicker than any other state in Europe.As the base population is barely 5 million and the expected immigration of Muslims will be accelerated after independence.
3.Oil revenue has been used to benefit Scotland.New Towns,Roads,Prisons,and the rebuilding of Slums.
4. Yes, every population in a developed country ages.This century people have lived longer,So What! get used to it.You do not expect that immigrants will help pay taxes to pay pensions,they bring their elderly relatives who get on the benefit ride.
5. Smart people exist everywhere.A canny investment fund to one might be a scam to another.
6. for a person who is not concerned for the result, your BS reference means you have some desire that the Yes vote wins.
Posted by BROCK, Wednesday, 17 September 2014 3:54:00 PM
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Of all the people in the UK you could choose to pick on as dole bludgers the Scottish are worst choice, as they have the best employment figures in the UK which by the way happens to be 6.4% which is better than some Australian states.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-scotland-business-27406616

Should the Scots decide to go it alone they have got some 24 billion barrels of oil equivalent to fall back, to share between just 5 million people, that will put them in the top 20 of the world's wealthiest countries. Remind me not to buy shares in Deutsche Bank, their analysis of the situation makes no sense to me.
Posted by warmair, Wednesday, 17 September 2014 4:09:35 PM
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BROCK says:-

"1.Anas Sawar is deputy Leader Of the Scottish labour Party,He therefore is one of the leading supporters for the Yes Vote."

I see minor problem here he seems to be campaigning furiously for the No vote see what he says below:-

http://www.scottishlabour.org.uk/blog/entry/time-for-the-silent-majority-to-find-its-voice1

Quote
"By putting up a poster you can demonstrate you will not be silenced, that the right decision for your family, your community and your country is to vote No"

See more at: http://www.scottishlabour.org.uk/blog/entry/time-for-the-silent-majority-to-find-its-voice1#sthash.Vp6BiHUo.dpuf

Anyway never let the facts get in the way of a good argument.
Posted by warmair, Wednesday, 17 September 2014 4:30:07 PM
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Well, the Scots remain in the UK.

But I think it is a win-win. Scotland has gained a few new powers from the Cameron government, which they would just simply never have got without this referendum and without it looking as though the yes vote just might get up.

So I hope that the vast majority of Scots can see it all as a good process and a good outcome.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/scottish-independence/scottish-independence-referendum-results-read-david-camerons-speech-in-full-9742858.html
Posted by Ludwig, Friday, 19 September 2014 9:18:50 PM
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As an Irish Republican/British Monarchist, of mainly Scots descent, I am thankful that sanity prevailed.

Emotionalism might have won the day to the detriment of Scotland but fortunately there was not another Bonnie Prince Charlie to lead the YES vote; one utterly incompetent leader in a nations history is enough.
Posted by Is Mise, Saturday, 20 September 2014 7:26:05 AM
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