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Religion, Business, Tax, Make Them Pay

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It seems a few minutes spent reading the St. Vincent De Paul Charter (Vinnies) would appease any reasonable concern held about a function vital to the lives of thousands.Much of what is distributed is donated and volunteer managed. Their satisfaction comes from helping their fellow citizens in their time of need.
Posted by prefernottodoso, Friday, 11 July 2014 12:51:19 PM
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ITS A MESSY story/but lets try to reveal some of this huge scam
10 Supreme Court Rulings
That Turned Corporations Into People
http://www.newsforage.com/2014/07/10-supreme-court-rulings-that-turned.html

Last week's Hobby Lobby ruling charted new legal territory by granting corporations the same religious rights as real people. The rationale behind the decision—that expanding constitutional rights to businesses is necessary to "protect the rights of people associated with the corporation"—is far from nov
RS's 17% Error Rate in Processing Amended Tax Returns Caused $2.1 Billion of Erroneous Tax Refunds
http://taxprof.typepad.com/taxprof_blog/2014/07/tigta-irss-17-error-rate-.html

The IRS received more than 4 million amended tax returns in Fiscal Year 2012. This audit was initiated because previous TIGTA audits have identified problems with IRS processes for verifying claims on amended tax returns. The objective of this review was to determine whether the IRS has controls in place to ensure that claims for refunds on amended tax returns are appropriate. ...
http://rinf.com/alt-news/uk-news/british-public-sector-workers-strike-poverty-pay/
TIGTA’s review of a statistical sample of 259 amended tax returns claiming tax refunds of $500 or more in Fiscal Year 2012 identified 44 (17 percent) tax returns for which the IRS issued potentially erroneous tax refunds totaling $103,270. Based on the sample results, TIGTA estimates the IRS may have issued more than $439 million in potentially erroneous tax refunds claimed on 187,421 amended returns in Fiscal Year 2012. As such, the IRS could issue more than $2.1 billion in potentially erroneous tax refunds claimed on amended tax returns over the next five years.
http://www.newsforage.com/2014/07/white-house-admits-prison-wont-solve.html

The reason there are so many errors by the IRS is that the tax code is very complicated, the result off too many loopholes passed for the very rich and because the whole system is intentionally obfuscated so that ordinary citizens cannot figure out that it is a scam.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/australiaandthepacific/australia/10958728/Australian-judge-says-incest-may-no-longer-be-a-taboo.html

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/2014/07/10/men-get-draft-notices-years-after-the-fact/Bgjk0abnmR2eAv5zBJT8BN/story.html
Posted by one under god, Friday, 11 July 2014 1:49:14 PM
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I'm with Individual. A flat rate of tax but charged on disbursements from bank accounts which every one and every entity is obliged to have. There could be exceptions based on account type. It is assumed that if you are paying out of a bank account you can afford to pay tax. The percentage would be very small but it would, among other things, eliminate the cost of the ATO.
Posted by Oldy, Friday, 11 July 2014 4:58:26 PM
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Obviously you guys would prefer to pay tax on gifts you pay to the poor.
You do not believe in volunteerism or charity. You haven't mentioned the thousands of employees Sanitarium employ who pay taxes. My wife's daughter is a contractor to sanitarium and she pays taxes in the highest bracket.
You are a lot of mean hearted selfish uncharitable agnostics, who have no idea how Sanitarium might use their profits in third world development.
Posted by Josephus, Friday, 11 July 2014 10:15:03 PM
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Josephus,
With a flat tax everyone pays the same rate, there's no more fair & level playing field than flat tax.
Re tax on what's given to poor ? Yes, you're not actually giving if you claim it back are you ?
Sanitarium are obviously not giving all that much away judging by what they're supposedly holding in their bank accounts. Your step daughter would pay no more & no less then everyone else if there were a flat tax. Why does asking someone to pull their own weight become mean hearted & selfish ? Please explain ?
Posted by individual, Saturday, 12 July 2014 7:27:47 AM
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<<pay to the poor>> Josephus, how much of their profits do these religions actually put into "charitable works". In fact much of the charity is nothing more than recruitment. How about some transparency!

<<You haven't mentioned the thousands of employees Sanitarium employ who pay taxes>>
Oh! BHP or Wespac etc should not pay company tax, after all their employees pay income tax. Come on Jose, tax the commercial profits.
Posted by Paul1405, Saturday, 12 July 2014 7:55:55 AM
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